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Witness: Man Shot by Kyle Rittenhouse Had Round Chambered in Handgun
breitbart.com ^ | 11/6/2021 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 11/07/2021 12:11:25 PM PST by rktman

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To: Lurker

good question. Not sure if the defense will pose that question or if that will not be allowed to be brought up.


41 posted on 11/07/2021 2:52:35 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: AndyJackson

“well you were just assuming that he was a threat, but you didn’t really know.”

Only in this example if you guess wrong you’re dead. So that argument is fallacious.

L


42 posted on 11/07/2021 2:52:59 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

In your mind it is fallacious. As a juror I don’t have to figure it out or argue it. The chamber was loaded. End of story.


43 posted on 11/07/2021 2:54:13 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: rktman

It’s the opposite of don’t point at anything unless you want to shoot it; if the gun is pointed at you, then you are going to get shot. Act accordingly.


44 posted on 11/07/2021 2:54:40 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: AndyJackson

That is one way to look at it. Just assume all the jurors are idiots.

Which is probably the smart way to play it.

L


45 posted on 11/07/2021 2:55:28 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: janetjanet998

“… 3rd guy took out his gun but Kyle shot him before he could…”
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And, in true cowboy movie fashion, Kyle shot the assailant in his gun bearing arm. That wound rendered the assailant unable to even release the handgun from his grip.


46 posted on 11/07/2021 2:57:00 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Lurker
the problem with your view is that you think being a legal literalist will win the day. Say X shoots a black kid who was waving a gun around. He claims it was self-dense. Now we all know the optics here are the optics will sway a lot of jurors. On the other hand if you can prove that not only was the 14 year old chasing him down the street but that he had a round in the chamber, safety off and finger on the trigger.

Much less question about whether it was really self-defense.

47 posted on 11/07/2021 2:57:46 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: House Atreides

The kid was lucky there.

His biggest threat is not the criminals but the legal system.


48 posted on 11/07/2021 2:59:39 PM PST by Texas resident (Sucks to be named Brandon now)
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To: Lurker
Just assume all the jurors are idiots

Half of them are and 2/3 are scared. So you are relying on one or two jurors to have the guts to hang the jury, figuratively, when there is a crowd outside itching to hang the jury literally.

49 posted on 11/07/2021 2:59:44 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

“the problem with your view is that you think being a legal literalist will win the day.”

Yea, well that’s because I’m a rational human being.

But the Defense was smart to point this up. Now they need to introduce this creep stating publicly that he wanted to kill Kyle.

That’ll nail the door shut on this charge.

L


50 posted on 11/07/2021 3:00:53 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Antihero101607

He was amazing. Kept his composure the entire time, and fired his weapon accurately and only when absolutely necessary. IMHO, kid has the makings of a natural war fighter.


51 posted on 11/07/2021 3:01:33 PM PST by AnglePark
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To: AndyJackson

“when there is a crowd outside itching to hang the jury literally.”

The Judge needs to hammer that garbage down and hammer it down hard. Anyone even approaching a jury member needs to be arrested, charged, convicted, and then put away for the maximum.

I’m betting on a directed verdict of not guilty on most if not all of the charges. That will take the heat off the jury and be legally correct.

L


52 posted on 11/07/2021 3:04:32 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: rktman

Kyle’s attackers were no match for someone who could handle a firearm with such finesse.


53 posted on 11/07/2021 3:06:01 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Samurai_Jack

You must remember chances are the jury voted for the prosecutor in this case. They share something in common. KR is an outsider.


54 posted on 11/07/2021 3:06:51 PM PST by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: fuzzylogic
Pretty sure that's the same jerk in the video I posted in post #39


55 posted on 11/07/2021 3:11:48 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: 1FreeAmerican
Grosskreutz after being arrested. Notice his blown up bicep is still in a compression sleeve.


56 posted on 11/07/2021 3:22:01 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: MtnClimber
Kyle is a hero. He took out the trash (two of the three who tried to kill him).

Kyle took two out and disarmed the third.

57 posted on 11/07/2021 3:58:08 PM PST by Pollster1 (America is no longer in Claire Wolfe's "awkward stage")
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To: rktman

Indeed.

I hope he beats this.


58 posted on 11/07/2021 4:03:23 PM PST by sauropod
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To: misanthrope

Wow,
Kinda shows it all,,,


59 posted on 11/07/2021 4:07:58 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: janetjanet998
(PROSECUTION *WITHDRAWS* CHARACTER EVIDENCE LINE OF QUESTIONING!)

Would the judge allow his testimony to be stricken from the record? Is that what "withdraws" means?

60 posted on 11/07/2021 4:22:08 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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