Posted on 11/05/2021 10:34:28 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Rudy Giuliani, who served as Former President Trump's personal attorney, said during a deposition in mid-August that he “didn’t have the time” to look into whether reports of election fraud were credible, CNN, which obtained deposition tapes, reported Friday.
Giuliani is being sued by Dominion Voting Systems after he and other defendants connected to the former president repeatedly made claims, without evidence, that the 2020 election was rigged by Dominion Voting Systems in favor of Joe Biden.
“We had a report that the heads of Dominion and Smartmatic, somewhere in the mid-tweens, you know 2013, 2014, whatever, went down to Venezuela for a get-to-know meeting with [President Nicolás] Maduro so they could demonstrate to Maduro the kind of vote fixing they did for [former President Hugo] Chavez," Giuliani is shown saying during his deposition footage.
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Rudi screwed Trump. He was/is a drunk. People worked their butts off for him, getting data he personally requested and be delivered to him at x amount of time. They were told to bring it to him at restaurant, back room, where he was drunk. They handed him the documents, the evidence and he threw it on the table and said I will look at it later. He did this many many times. This was told by someone who looked at Rudi as a mentor and he had high respect for him.
He was great at one time but when he totally failed in 2021.
There is, a bit. He is accurately describing his obligation of "reasonable inquiry" under Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
His problem is that this isn't in the context of a motion for sanctions or bar disciplinary proceedings for frivolous pleadings under Rule 11 (although he is facing those as well), but a suit for libel stemming primarily from his statements to the media (and, I believe, from his republication of his pleadings to the media). Compliance with Rule 11, by itself, won't save him.
However, it does seem pretty clear that Dominion will be considered a "public figure" defendant, and so they will have to prove "actual malice" under New York Times v. Sullivan. That means they have to prove that Giuliani either knew what we was saying was false, or was reckless with regard to whether it was true.
I don't know much about the line of questioning other than the small excerpts played by CNN. But my guess it concerned one of two things: (1) Dominion's lawyers are trying to establish actual malice by getting Giuliani to admit that he had an obligation to investigate these allegations because they were in a court pleading, and that his failure satisfied the "recklessness" prong of the actual malice test; or (2) That his statements in his pleadings, which he sent to the media, should be held to some higher standard due to his obligations under the rules. In those contexts, his testimony regarding lack of investigation may help him avoid liability, although I certainly agree with you that it doesn't do much for his credibility to the public.
Interesting thing to note: It is the law in every state I am aware of that lawyers and other parties are immune from civil liability for defamation for statements made in court, including statements in pleadings. The sole remedies are sanctions under the rules of civil procedure and/or disciplinary proceedings against the lawyers. It is less settled, however, whether that immunity extends to out-of-court statements by lawyers, including sending the court pleadings themselves to the media. The Texas Supreme Court held just this year that it doesn't.
“there were lawyers here who volunteered to help. they were turned down...not by Trump but those in the chain. at least two posters here”
More evidence that we have traitors amongst us. People who appeared to be on Trump’s side but were working to undermine him and prevent him from serving a second term.
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