Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

As jury selection begins for Kyle Rittenhouse, the defense will put the men he shot on trial (barf alert)
Chicago Tribune ^ | 1 nov 2021 | STACY ST. CLAIR

Posted on 11/01/2021 9:38:53 AM PDT by rellimpank

With jury selection set to begin Monday in Kyle Rittenhouse’s murder case, his defense team has signaled it intends to put the men he shot on trial, too.

It’s a strategy bolstered by a series of pretrial rulings by a Kenosha County judge with a long-held reputation for giving defendants wide latitude to present a defense and a hard rule against using the word “victim” in his courtroom. In a nuanced case that hinges on the Antioch teen’s state of mind, legal experts say pretrial rulings regarding what jurors can — and cannot — hear will set a tone for the proceedings in a legally justifiable way the public may struggle to understand.

“I’ve never seen a case that’s so complicated to try to disentangle the motives and countermotives of all of the players in the street,” said Dr. Ziv Cohen, a forensic psychiatrist who has consulted on more than 50 murder cases. “I think that this is a very unpredictable case, and that’s partly why the judge’s decisions are so momentous.”

Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty to the charges and says he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber and wounded Gaige Grosskreutz in August 2020.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; enemedia; kenosha; kylerittenhouse; mediabias; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; rittenhouse; rkba; wisconsin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

1 posted on 11/01/2021 9:38:53 AM PDT by rellimpank
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

those guys are gonna get grilled

they will be destroyed on the stand during cross examination


2 posted on 11/01/2021 9:40:03 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

They’re going to try dead men?


3 posted on 11/01/2021 9:42:30 AM PDT by fwdude
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Easier that way.


4 posted on 11/01/2021 9:44:36 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

It would be nice if the cops had tracked down and prosecuted the anarchist who fired the first shot.


5 posted on 11/01/2021 9:45:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

If the Trib means “his assailants” they’re right.


6 posted on 11/01/2021 9:47:41 AM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

https://concealednation.org/2020/10/charges-dropped-against-first-kenosha-shooter-who-fired-into-air/


7 posted on 11/01/2021 9:53:01 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Please Support FR
Click The Pic To Donate.


8 posted on 11/01/2021 9:54:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasGator

Un-fricking-beleivable


9 posted on 11/01/2021 9:56:10 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

Well, they did deserve killing.


10 posted on 11/01/2021 9:57:11 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

Considering one of the men he shot was a PEDOPHILE I can see why the left is defending him..after all pedo’s always vote Dem


11 posted on 11/01/2021 9:59:42 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

The three felons?


12 posted on 11/01/2021 10:00:35 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

Self defense always centers around the actions of those you defended yourself against...

Their actions, and your actions in response to them... Self defense all revolves around whether your actions were justifiable. IN this case, it’s pretty damn clear they were, however reality and courts, particularly clearly politically driven prosecutions, don’t always agree.

This headline is garbage, and I am sure the article is even worse.


13 posted on 11/01/2021 10:06:09 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasGator

Bkmk


14 posted on 11/01/2021 10:14:24 AM PDT by sauropod
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

As it should be. We’re so used to politically unpopular defendants being railroaded that were unaccustomed to defendants being allowed to mount a full-throated defense. The activities of the victim are relevant and should be fully exposed


15 posted on 11/01/2021 10:28:48 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (20 years on Free Republic, 12/10/20! More than 3700 replies and still not shutting up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

Please find out if Gaige Grosskreutz is an FBI informant and possibly paid agitator.

If that turns out true, then we have a LOT more questions to ask.


16 posted on 11/01/2021 10:32:41 AM PDT by struggle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

The man who lost his bicep to a Rittenhouse shot is captured in recording that he intended to kill Kyle with his sidearm.


17 posted on 11/01/2021 10:35:19 AM PDT by lurk ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

1. It’s the defense attorneys’ job to “put the assailants on trial”. If the people chasing Rittenhouse were polite non-violent political operatives, that would be a weak strategy. Since in reality they were criminals engaged in riot and arson at the time, their backgrounds and conduct are material factors in why Rittenhouse feared for his life.

2. “I’ve never seen a case that’s so complicated to try to disentangle the motives and countermotives of all of the players in the street,” said Dr. Ziv Cohen, a psychiatrist...”

Leftists want this to be tried as COMPLEX case. In reality the case is simple, and the judge is resisting efforts to convert it into an Antifa/BLM circus, with America on trial, with Rittenhouse as a proxy for White Supremacy. Hate to disappoint Dr. Ziv, but subjective “motives and counter-motives of the various players on the street” are not evidence and have no place in this case. Stick to the facts.

Since Rittenhouse will argue self-defense, the State must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that:
Rittenhouse attacked his assailants first;
Rittenhouse did NOT fear serious bodily harm or death;
Rittenhouse was not assaulted with a heavy skateboard (i.e., a deadly weapon);
Rittenhouse was not chased by multiple criminals while he was trying to defend property from rioters and arsonists;
That a firearm was not discharged near Rittenhouse while he was being chased; and,
Rittenhouse did not retreat from them until knocked down.

From videos and witness statements, proving any such thing is impossible. The State’s only play is to prejudice jurors against the Defendant, but they can’t change the facts of the incident. There is no case here, and the prosecutors know it. That makes the trial a matter of prosecutorial misconduct. I hope this judge comes down on them hard.


18 posted on 11/01/2021 10:42:38 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rellimpank

They should have been on trial without being shot.


19 posted on 11/01/2021 10:59:13 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: fwdude

Well,if they can vote........


20 posted on 11/01/2021 11:00:54 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-33 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson