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The Supreme Court just took a case on the EPA’s authority. Its decision could undo most major federal laws.
Washington Post ^ | Oct 29, 2021 | Pamela Clouser McCann, Charles R. Shipan

Posted on 10/30/2021 7:54:06 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

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SCOTUS will do the right thing(nope) or it will bend over for the Democrats(yep)


41 posted on 10/30/2021 8:39:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
This is a clause from the Declaration of Independence:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

Is this not essentially the same thing as nameless faceless unaccountable beaureacrats making up law based on vague guidelines? Since the original Americans went to war over this surely doing the same thing all over again to ourselves is unconstitutional?

42 posted on 10/30/2021 8:43:05 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: fireman15

Kavanaugh is turning out to be little more than a glorified frat boy, and Barrett is oh-so-compassionate. She won’t rock the boat and do anything truly heroic.

So basically it’s a 7-2 or 6-3 leftist court, the opposite of what the media screams it is.

Business as usual.


43 posted on 10/30/2021 8:48:39 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: BiglyCommentary

IF we didn’t overturn bad law, then we’d still have slavery...separate but equal, etc.


44 posted on 10/30/2021 8:51:17 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

I dont like “bad law”, doesn’t matter how long it’s been on the books to me. BAD = GONE.


45 posted on 10/30/2021 8:55:50 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
It might unravel nearly every major law Congress has passed since World War II.

That's the problem, congress never passed a law they punted the reges to the agencies so they would not be held accountable for the pushback or bad outcomes.

The agencies then "partner" with NGO's who write the actual regulations. Congress stands back and says, "hey don't look at us our hands are clean.

46 posted on 10/30/2021 8:56:46 AM PDT by usurper ( version )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I agree that a ruling against the current ‘regulatory state’ is unlikely.

On the other hand, consider the ‘mission statement’ implicit to the EPA; “Protect the Environment”. Does anybody know of any restrictions, other than practical politics, that limit the EPA?

In an explicit world, OR in a modern Twilight Zone, I could see the last EPA employee, having seen the last human corpse properly composted, offing itself in another, automated composter, thus accomplishing the task of “Protect(ing) the Environment (from humans)”!


47 posted on 10/30/2021 8:56:58 AM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Agree!


48 posted on 10/30/2021 8:58:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
The October 29, 2021, SCOTUSBlog article, "Justices agree to review EPA’s authority to regulate greenhouse gases," has more details and links to discussions of the individual lawsuits the SCOTUS has agreed to hear:

West Virginia v. EPA
North American Coal Corp. v. EPA
Westmoreland Mining Holdings, LLC v. Environmental Protection Agency
North Dakota v. EPA
49 posted on 10/30/2021 9:03:41 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“arcane legal doctrine”

Goodness gracious! Most understand the purpose of what
this doctrine set out to do. Nothing “ARCANE” about it.

Big brother poking where he shouldn’t be involved (PERIOD)
Will SCOTUS whittle the dead wood from their permanent cushy
chairs? Time will tell.


50 posted on 10/30/2021 9:03:55 AM PDT by V K Lee (Our Founding Fathers were wise men yet not wise enough to include EVERYTHING in our Constitution. )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Oh boy. Going back decades to junior high civics class: the original intent for Congress to delegate certain functions to the Federal Agencies was to take the politics out of certain decisions concerning specific areas. The model my teachers used was the FCC: assemble the experts that administer the Communications Acts as passed by Congress, to determine "the details" based on the framework passed by said Congress and the "expert knowledge" brought to the table by the bureau of so-called experts in the subject matter. The process is supposed to be restricted by the requirement of public review of proposed regulations.

The problem is that K Street is wall-to-wall lobbyists, because the knobs of power are so widely distributed using this scheme. Another part of the problem is that the public review process is now viewed as a mere formality by those self-same bureaucrats. Finally, the review process is a parade by special interests, because the special interests are the only people willing to spend the money to be who pays attention to each specific, particular corner of this monster we call government.

51 posted on 10/30/2021 9:05:17 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: marktwain

And took control of our water, claiming puddles from rain as a waterway.


52 posted on 10/30/2021 9:15:01 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain

This could be monumental. One of those decisions that is talked about by name...for better or for worse.

Will it be Brown vs. Bd of Ed., or Dredd Scott?


53 posted on 10/30/2021 9:18:43 AM PDT by livius
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To: Enterprise

I don’t see a downside to this. If it’s constitutional to do so, we could certainly do with a few less laws; many of which apparently should not have been law in the first place. The one thing that would probably do the most for our country would be to get us back to where the Constitution really is the law of the land. It’s time to realize that our forefathers really did have their heads on straight when they wrote our Constitution. Some Democrats will not like this, but as far as I’m concerned they can go pound sand.


54 posted on 10/30/2021 9:19:27 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: ComputerGuy
scotus? They exercise far more power than the Constitution allows.

How so? The Constitution allows Congress to expressly deny review of any given law it passes by the courts.

55 posted on 10/30/2021 9:20:37 AM PDT by RideForever (One of the CoVID naturally immune control group)
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To: fireman15

“Kavanaugh and Barrett are huge disappointments. The left has some type of hold on them.”

Kavanaugh has spent his life in the DC area I believe. He’s going to take care of the big government that has pampered him since his Pamper days.


56 posted on 10/30/2021 9:25:14 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SES1066

And they set up “Administrative Law Judges” to determine compliance with said regulation. I never understood how a judical system could exist constitutionally outside of the federal courts but it does. (Military is the exception and is constitutionally allowed as a special case.)


57 posted on 10/30/2021 9:26:29 AM PDT by Reily
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The amount of CO2 in US air could go up four-fold and not have an adverse impact on the US.


58 posted on 10/30/2021 9:27:56 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: SaxxonWoods

Bump!


59 posted on 10/30/2021 9:28:17 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed, the more evidence I see supporting my decision. Psalm 144:5-8)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Would not hold my breath. Not with 3 gutless, so called conservatives in that crowd.

This will totally backfire on those trying to curb the power of the EPA once the Supremes vote in its favor. It will cement forever that power and embolden the EPA to grab even more.


60 posted on 10/30/2021 9:28:27 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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