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China Hints it Stuck Time Bombs on U.S. Satellites
Youtube and others. ^ | Oct 27, 2021 | Tomo News via South China Morning Post

Posted on 10/27/2021 7:28:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase

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To: Rebelbase
Something that big - and yes 7 lbs is plenty big - will be tracked in orbit. It is unlikely it would be autonomous, probably delivered by something even bigger, a "bus" vehicle.

You can't just zip right up to another satellite and motor away in minutes. Orbital maneuvers are carried out over hours and days - particularly low powered maneuvers if you're trying not to attract attention or burn a lot of fuel (because you have many munitions to deliver).

In other words, if they tried something like this, we'd see them coming from a long, long ways off. It is an interesting concept, but not terribly practical at the moment.

Consider, we see something cozying up to one of our birds, we'd just maneuver away. If they follow, that's hostile intent. I would contend we should then maneuver and ram the Chinese satellite - sacrifice one to take out their delivery system and save a dozen others. If/when the Chinese protest "Oh, sorry, didn't see you there. You shouldn't have been so close to our bird anyway."

Even better, how about a "honey pot" satellite? We launch what we claim is our next high-zoot surveillance or communications or navigation satellite. The Chinese bus comes along to deploy a mine on it... "Hey wait, it grabbed me! Now it's de-orbiting us!" ;-) "Oh, sorry, we were testing a clean-up satellite. One that'll latch onto dead satellites and de-orbit them. Guess your bird got too close to ours and it activated... We'll work on that..."

21 posted on 10/27/2021 8:23:56 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: Rebelbase

creep into the tailpipes of enemy satellites


I wasn’t aware that we put gasoline or diesel-powered satellites in orbit ...


22 posted on 10/27/2021 8:24:41 AM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Oh, and, "Let's Go Brandon!")
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To: Wayne07

I disagree. The calculations for those kind of orbital adjustments are incredibly precise, and the fuel and amount of burn are calculated to several decimal points. 3.5 kg would easily affect those kind of calculations.

And NASA would have to make those calculation pretty soon after something that size attached itself, because the change in orbital rotation would be noticeable. The attaching object would impart some angular momentum to the satellite, causing an adjustment in the orbit. Again, these things are watched to an incredible degree of accuracy and would be noticeable within a short period of time.


23 posted on 10/27/2021 8:42:04 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Revel

And thanks to things like Tik Tok they know everything about us culturally as well.


24 posted on 10/27/2021 8:44:48 AM PDT by MissEdie (Be the Light in Someone's Darkness.)
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To: Wayne07

the operative word there is noticeable...


25 posted on 10/27/2021 8:45:25 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode; wbarmy

This isn’t the 80s where there is some guy in Houston with a slide rule doing fuel burn calculations, who is going to scratch his head and wonder why the satellite didn’t move as expected. The satellites’ software will use thrust as appropriate to move or maintain position, regardless of a small weight change. Will the change in thrust required be calculable? Of course. Will it be noticeable? Only if someone is looking and paying attention.


26 posted on 10/27/2021 8:55:23 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Wayne07

No, this is the 2020s where a change in the algorithm or expected amounts are automatically highlighted or redlined to the staff. Even in some of the basic stuff I do in DoD a slight change in the normal parameters is always alarmed.

That way there doesn’t have to be someone paying attention, the program pays attention and tells you. You might ignore it the first time, but after 2 or 3 different occurrences, someone starts asking questions.


27 posted on 10/27/2021 9:07:26 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Wayne07

they have to be watching, ok

i’d have thought there would be some kind of notification of an unexpected change in attitude to get their attention


28 posted on 10/27/2021 9:12:30 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Rebelbase

The tv show “U.F.O” had the aliens attaching a thruster to our spacecraft causing them to to burn up in orbit.


29 posted on 10/27/2021 9:25:12 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: PIF

As you point out, building jet engine cores is about basic materials research coupled with manufacturing technology. OTOH, building a descent stage warhead bus that can maneuver inside the atmosphere is something that could probably benefit from a more ‘brute-force’ design approach like the Soviets were famous for.


30 posted on 10/27/2021 9:30:00 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Rebelbase
For years I have thought a primary mission for the USAF XB-37 should be the mining of our enemies satellites. The next war will be fought and won in space. The article comes from Chicom propaganda outlets.

We have the "DAWG" to thank for the Chicoms getting the Satellite technology from the U.S.A.

"The DAWG Clintoon" wanted the Chicoms to be on par with their weaponry and this is what comes out of it.

"The DAWG" did not want the U.S. to be No. 1 and we get the Chicoms having U.S. technology.

Everytime I see "The DAWG" I feel he is probably first or second to Obama as one of the worst ever.

31 posted on 10/27/2021 9:33:39 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: Tallguy

This Chinese missile is, according to the only source I’ve seen (the Financial Times), launched by a Long March booster, and then orbits as many times as needed, descends into the atmosphere at “hypersonic speeds” and not burn up. Which sounds much like a standard ICBM and warhead. Or something - just not clear what the FT was reporting on. And that is all the Chinese admit to doing the month prior to the launch reported in the FT.

I have yet to see a military oriented blog give the thing any validity.


32 posted on 10/27/2021 10:04:35 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Rebelbase

exactly ;-)


33 posted on 10/27/2021 11:38:43 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: caver

Not gonna be fooled by a banana in the tailpipe.😁


34 posted on 10/27/2021 11:58:45 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Rebelbase

Not to be complacent, but the ChiComms lie about everything. They can’t build Navy ships that are reliable. The uto parts they sell in the USS are crap. I have serious doubts about this.

Adding several pounds to a satellite will change its orbit, center of gravity and ability to manuver. This would have been noticed.


35 posted on 10/27/2021 12:07:48 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Red Badger

It would manuver more slowly and would be out of balance as well.


36 posted on 10/27/2021 12:09:32 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Rebelbase

Not to be complacent, but the ChiComms lie about everything. They can’t build Navy ships that are reliable. The uto parts they sell in the USS are crap. I have serious doubts about this.

Adding several pounds to a satellite will change its orbit, center of gravity and ability to manuver. This would have been noticed.


37 posted on 10/27/2021 12:14:35 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Rebelbase

bkmk


38 posted on 10/27/2021 6:37:17 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Seruzawa

Hope you are right.


39 posted on 11/02/2021 6:59:32 AM PDT by JstABrdPstr
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