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Several Republican Attorney Generals Say There Is No Federal Vaccine Mandate for Private Workers, Vow to Sue
Epoch Times ^ | 10/17/2021 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 10/17/2021 9:23:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Several Republican attorneys general have said that President Joe Biden’s federal mandate for COVID-19 vaccinations hasn’t yet come into effect for private businesses, adding that if it is ordered, they will file lawsuits against it.

Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen, a Republican, noted that the White House only last week submitted the text of its emergency rule regarding vaccinations to the Office of Management and Budget, meaning it hasn’t gone into effect.

But, Knudsen noted that “no such rule or regulation is currently in effect,” adding (pdf) that there has been a “great deal of confusion” over Biden’s announcement last month.

“Further, my office is preparing to immediately challenge and enjoin this federal overreach on a variety of grounds when the Biden administration issues its announced rule,” he said.

On Sept. 9, Biden announced that he would direct the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to mandate that all private businesses with 100 or more employees force their workers to get vaccinated or submit to weekly testing. Details about the rule, including fines, have not been released, and White House press secretary Jen Psaki couldn’t answer questions earlier this month about a timeframe on when it would be unveiled.

Oklahoma Attorney General John O’Connor, also a Republican, announced Thursday that there is no federal rule mandating employers to require their workers to get the shots. As a result, he noted that Biden’s announcement should be ignored by employers until a rule is implemented.

“I urge Oklahoma employers to disregard the Biden Administration’s wishes to the contrary,” O’Connor said in a statement. “In the event federal emergency rules are issued that place such an unlawful demand upon employers, our office will be joined by other state Attorneys General across the country to quickly sue and seek an injunction against any implementation or enforcement.”


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To: DoodleDawg

It isn’t even the company’s decision. It’s illegal, unconstitutional, unethical, immoral, and even against international law to mandate a medical experiment.


21 posted on 10/18/2021 5:19:06 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Grammar Police: Attorneys General !


22 posted on 10/18/2021 5:19:18 AM PDT by DrHFrog
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To: redgolum

Right-to-work is not being forced to join a union. At-will is being fired for any reason.


23 posted on 10/18/2021 5:20:25 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: redgolum
-- Until the rule is in effect, and enforcement starts, there is no standing to sue. --

Technically, the principle you describe is "ripe," not "standing."

Standing in on WHO is damaged, not WHEN.

On law in general, cases before damage are common. Stop the Keystone pipeline, stop the order before it goes into effect, etc. - restraining orders in general are pre-effect.

The so-called law on the vaccine mandate cases will be whatever the judge's bias is. There are examples on both sides of the decision. This is a "rule of man" issue, not a rule of law issue. The judges will smugly hide behind rhetoric and claim "the law allows no other decision."

24 posted on 10/18/2021 5:32:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: lodi90
Yes, there should be more action to prevent companies from terminating people, but I think this should start with employees filing wrongful termination lawsuits. The states can investigate companies and should--some have laws to protect employees from mandates, let's see some action there--e.g., Texas.

States should be more aggressively setting out worker protection and guidance to companies against mandates, especially where there are no approved drugs. It is wrong to say there is one, which turns out to not be in production and not available in the US.

States could more aggressively aid in helping with religious and medical exemptions--our civil rights, our medical privacy, and our medical choice.

Yes, they need to do more and their inaction speaks volumes. These discussion of lawsuits is a bit of CYA.

25 posted on 10/18/2021 5:33:36 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: SeekAndFind
there is no federal rule mandating employers to require their workers to get the shots. As a result, Oklahoma Attorney General John O’Connor noted that Biden’s announcement should be ignored by employers until a rule is implemented.
26 posted on 10/18/2021 5:37:09 AM PDT by cutty
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To: The Great RJ

Move to Mississippi - we don’t have them Minnesota problems.


27 posted on 10/18/2021 5:53:26 AM PDT by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Biden is “slow walking” these rules for the very reason of stemming the lawsuits before the deadline. It leaves very little time for an effective defense. A similar play went on with the rent moratorium. It’s all a very evil game, F#@K Joe Biden


28 posted on 10/18/2021 5:55:44 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: Osagegirl

Did you read it and not understand?

Here is a short version: The few who fought have the Honor, which is held dearest.


29 posted on 10/18/2021 7:43:36 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Reno89519

These occurred:

The press conference on the businesses with 100 + employees

The EO regarding fed workers

The EO regarding fed contractors

And after all of these 3 events, private companies, fed departments, and fed contractors began mandating shot status disclosures and shot deadlines, and firing those who didn’t disclose and get shots.

So, a lot happened and is happening; grounds for many lawsuits.


30 posted on 10/18/2021 7:55:42 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: SeekAndFind

Avoid the paywall:

https://outline.com/HzuDJH

F Joe Biden
Let’s Go Brandon!


31 posted on 10/18/2021 8:07:48 AM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed, the more evidence I see supporting my decision. Psalm 144:5-8)
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To: Eleutheria5; Osagegirl

Origin of the saying “Band of Brothers”. Excellent rendering here:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=henry+the+5th+saint+crispin%27s+speech+Bing&&view=detail&mid=7E984F442F3A8741C19E7E984F442F3A8741C19E&rvsmid=D4F505D0BA19CEC91D32D4F505D0BA19CEC91D32&FORM=VDRVRV


32 posted on 10/18/2021 9:31:58 AM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: WildHighlander57

Nothing in place regarding non-government workers and non-federal workers. The only authority the EO has is the executive branch and even that Biden and Harris have not included everyone.


33 posted on 10/18/2021 9:37:51 AM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: DrHFrog

Thank you!!


34 posted on 10/18/2021 9:49:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty. Don't forget his cohort)
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To: DoodleDawg

The problem is that private corporate vaccine mandates are a violation of human rights.

That is like saying it is ok for the companies to require all pregnant women to have abortions or ban all employees from homosexual acts.

It is corporate over-reach and must be stopped.


35 posted on 10/18/2021 9:51:33 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: The Great RJ

It isn’t a HIPAA violation. Be very careful. Do your research if it is likely to affect you. HIPAA is for insurance companies. There are other violations which do apply.


36 posted on 10/18/2021 10:01:58 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: kvanbrunt2

Oh screw the lawsuit bullcrap. Threaten secession then do so as necessary. Efffing Lawyers.


37 posted on 10/18/2021 10:58:37 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: The Great RJ
My employer, a large Midwest grocery chain, has posted a notice that due to “federal regulations” all employees must submit their proof of COVID vaccination by next Friday. I say this is BS, violates HIPPA and puts my private medical information in the hands of my employer.

Ask them what Federal regulations require this?

Also, what part of HIPAA does this violate?
38 posted on 10/19/2021 10:51:26 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: redgolum
HIPPA is to protect the employer, not the employee.

The employer is under no obligation to keep any and all health information private.


Huh? Actually, HIPAA is to protect the consumers' or employees' information, not the employer or business. Certain business entities that retain PHI (protected health info) CANNOT disclose said information to third parties. If your employer is not a covered entity under HIPAA, or what happened wasn't a HIPAA-related occurrence at their business, then HIPAA doesn't apply to the employer.

Now if your employer was a hospital, and your daughter was born there/in their NICU, then yes, you'd probably have a HIPAA case. But outside of that specific circumstance, HIPAA would most likely not apply.

Side note, I fail to see how your daughter having been in the NICU would be detrimental to you and potential employers...? How is that even related?
39 posted on 10/19/2021 11:05:00 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Blogger
It isn’t a HIPAA violation. Be very careful. Do your research if it is likely to affect you. HIPAA is for insurance companies. There are other violations which do apply.

His thing probably wasn't a HIPAA violation, correct. But HIPAA applies to waaaay more than just insurance companies!
40 posted on 10/19/2021 11:06:32 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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