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Personal health insurance requiring surcharge for "no vaxx"
Oct 16, 2021 | Self

Posted on 10/16/2021 5:03:34 PM PDT by soozla

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To: soozla
you have to fight this....you must not comply....talk to others and file a law suit...a class action lawsuit due to the discrimination against one segment for no good reason....

whatever they get away with, they will do....

61 posted on 10/16/2021 6:59:46 PM PDT by cherry
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To: markomalley

Actually the shot has no actual legal mandate from Biden administration. The employers and governors are enforcing it.


62 posted on 10/16/2021 7:00:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: markomalley

Actually the shot has no actual legal mandate from Biden administration. The employers and governors and now insurers are enforcing it.

That is text book FASCISM


63 posted on 10/16/2021 7:01:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup
Actually the shot has no actual legal mandate from Biden administration. The employers and governors and now insurers are enforcing it.

Since when does that matter?

64 posted on 10/16/2021 7:02:57 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: soozla

Seems to violate the Affordable Care Act.

“Under the ACA you can’t be charged more due to gender or health status on individual or small group plans sold after 2014. However, there are certain factors such as age, tobacco use, family size, and geography which can be used to determine insurance costs to the consumer.”

https://obamacarefacts.com/no-discrimination/


65 posted on 10/16/2021 7:06:29 PM PDT by Jim Hill
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To: Organic Panic

When do we put Brandon to work


66 posted on 10/16/2021 7:11:53 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Tell them what they want to hear with sincerity and do what is necessary )
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To: soozla
The powers that be, really, really, really want everyone to get this experimental shot for an illness that has a fatality rate of less than .5% for working age people and is asymptomatic or mild to moderate for the vast majority.

The shot has been proven to be not effective at keeping someone from getting the virus or transmitting it and there is evidence that it is causing the variants.

In the mean time they are suppressing and criminalizing effective therapeutics and actually killing patients.

They have opened our southern border and allowed millions of diseased illegal migrants in with no testing or vaccination.

All for a virus that was engineered in a Chinese bioweapons lab, with US complicity and all that seems to have disappeared down the memory hole, with no accountability.

Now they want to take away your ability to support yourself and your family, for your own good, of course.

This is tyrannical and evil.

67 posted on 10/16/2021 7:12:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: soozla
The powers that be, really, really, really want everyone to get this experimental shot for an illness that has a fatality rate of less than .5% for working age people and is asymptomatic or mild to moderate for the vast majority.

The shot has been proven to be not effective at keeping someone from getting the virus or transmitting it and there is evidence that it is causing the variants.

In the mean time they are suppressing and criminalizing effective therapeutics and actually killing patients.

They have opened our southern border and allowed millions of diseased illegal migrants in with no testing or vaccination.

All for a virus that was engineered in a Chinese bioweapons lab, with US complicity and all that seems to have disappeared down the memory hole, with no accountability.

Now they want to take away your ability to support yourself and your family, for your own good, of course.

This is tyrannical and evil.

68 posted on 10/16/2021 7:12:58 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: napscoordinator
Many are adding to monthly bill. They do it to smokers. Why not.

Why not? Because the manufacturers and the government admit the "vaccine" doesn't prevent anyone from getting COVID and the data points to those who took the Jim Jones Jab at a higher risk for getting it.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/covid-is-surging-in-waterford-ireland-where-99-7-percent-are-double-vaccinated/

69 posted on 10/16/2021 7:16:46 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: markomalley

Sad isn’t it?


70 posted on 10/16/2021 7:29:48 PM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I don’t want to kill something possibly good, but they are not as guaranteed as insurance legally. Liberty Healthshare had fantastic ratings online, but then the ratings began to slip as they began having trouble keeping up with payments, and then their fees doubled in a year. People online said they were getting chased by the Hospitals, who legally made them agree to pay for the service, and they agreed, assuming the healthshare would pay it. When Liberty was falling behind, a lot of people were having pucker moments.

If you have a healthshare, don’t look them up, see good ratings, get the plan, and then assume you are good and not keep up on their ratings. Keep looking online at the rating sites. These healthshares can go under suddenly, and they don’t have to pay your bills the way insurance does. You can end up stuck with the bill if you don’t stay on top of it.


71 posted on 10/16/2021 7:36:03 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information, I am under domestic surv coverage, and they will see it too.)
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To: soozla

See my post above this.


72 posted on 10/16/2021 7:37:57 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (DO NOT send me sensitive information, I am under domestic surv coverage, and they will see it too.)
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To: AnonymousConservative

you are correct

you do have to determine which ones are sound by your standards, and for what you pay in, their record of helping when you need them

due diligence is always needed when it comes to this, whether it be a health sharing ministry or a health insurance plan


73 posted on 10/16/2021 7:38:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: soozla

I thought the affordable care act made this illegal?


74 posted on 10/16/2021 7:38:43 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: T.B. Yoits

vaccine effectiveness against infection:
NHSN (Long-term care facility residents) early July ~55%
HEROS/RECOVER (Healthcare providers, first responders and frontline workers) July ~66%

links given at:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness

down from ~75% & 92% in March, unfortunately


75 posted on 10/16/2021 7:39:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Health shares are bull. I belonged for 4 years and they stopped ever paying me back. You pay them for nothing. They don’t pay the medical bills ever. Look at their. bBb complaints. Rip off. Sad.


76 posted on 10/16/2021 7:41:19 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I thought ACA prevented that?


77 posted on 10/16/2021 7:52:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Jim Hill

Family size?


78 posted on 10/16/2021 8:00:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: phoneman08

Do people spreading general diseases have to take a safe sex course every year to get Insurance?


79 posted on 10/16/2021 8:22:02 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Republican Wildcat
They have plenty from the millions if not billions of extra dollars they are paying out from those not vaxxed vs. vaxxed.

Since the CDC has newly vaccinated people classified as "unvaccinated" until 14 days have passed, and then called "partially vaccinated" ("not vaccinated" by the MSM?) until two weeks after their 2nd shot, it must be confusing for insurance companies to really know who is getting sick - is their expense more due to those who've been jabbed, or more due to those who haven't?

On the other hand, maybe it's ONLY the insurance companies who really know who's getting sick. If the insurance company paid for the jabs, and that expense is followed by the jabbed (but nominally "unvaccinated") person getting sick, then they've got the data to figure it out. If most of the hospitalizations are actually among the once-jabbed or the not quite twice-baked jabbees, then the insurance companies are only jacking up prices on the "unvaccinated" simply because they can get away with it in the current political climate.

Is any of this insurance data public - and reliable? It would sure answer a lot of questions. Government data is a crap shoot at best for reliability any more. (Government narrative is worthless).

80 posted on 10/16/2021 8:34:12 PM PDT by Tellurian (Your phone is your cattle tag. 2/4/2004: DARPA Lifelog terminated, MZ Facebook initiated. )
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