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Dozens of US nuclear lab workers sue over vaccine mandate
The Associated Press ^ | October 14, 2021 | By SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN

Posted on 10/14/2021 3:49:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — Workers at one of the nation’s premier nuclear weapons laboratories face a deadline Friday — be vaccinated or prepare to be fired.

Dozens of workers at Los Alamos National Laboratory — the birthplace of the atomic bomb — are suing over the mandate, saying exemptions have been unduly denied and their constitutional rights are being violated by Triad National Security LLC, the contractor that runs the lab for the U.S. Department of Energy.

It will be up to a state district judge whether to grant an injunction to prevent employees from being fired while the merits of the case are decided. A hearing was underway Thursday.

The lawsuit alleges that lab management has been harassing employees and has created a hostile work environment. The complaint outlines the experiences of many of the workers, including one who was screamed at for not being vaccinated and was told by a fellow crew member that he and his family deserved to die.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; china; covid; mandates
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1 posted on 10/14/2021 3:49:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are just going to replace them with Haitian and Afghan immigrant nuclear lab workers.


2 posted on 10/14/2021 3:51:10 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“C’mon Man! Nuculure shrubs need tons of spaghetti sauce for fuel. Do you know how many pieces of bacon it takes to launch a biplane from one of those? I once attacked the Germans in Pearl Harbor, and lemme tell you, those guys were bad dudes! They used to tie up giraffes and make them dunk basketballs. That’s cruel, man!”


3 posted on 10/14/2021 3:54:59 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All these people have been working without being vaccinated for 18 months. Looks like....either you get it or you don’t. Bet 50% have already had it. Look at the ages.


4 posted on 10/14/2021 3:58:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why, of course I have no problem working with nuclear energy. But that jab scares the crap out of me!


5 posted on 10/14/2021 3:59:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nuclear lab workers with an attitude—what could possibly go wrong?

;-)


6 posted on 10/14/2021 4:02:02 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg

I’ll say it again, be ashamed if there was a leak. Speaking from experience, the contractors have the brains, the government people use buzz words and push paper. If the government guys try to do anything serious on their own they will screw it up.


7 posted on 10/14/2021 4:18:18 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any employee or contractor working under a federal contract I believe has legal standing against the mandate.

Unless there’s a clause in any of the contracts requiring a vaccination mandate in a clause somewhere then the federal government can’t change the rules. They change the rules then it’s breach of contract. The same goes for any option years. Follow on contracts may have a clause that mandates it (still illegal anyway) but then the employer can bid or not bid on it and anyone they hire for that contract would be made aware prior to being hired.

Any employee hired by the contractor to work on a federal contract, unless that person was told up front there would be a vaccine mandate then it’s a breach of contract in hiring the employee and then laying down medical requirements after the employee is hired. You can’t do that.

So employees should be suing employers and employers should be suing the federal government.

If I were working back in DoD again I’d be telling them it’s an “X” year contract with “X” number of options years. None of which requires a vaccine.

I’d be setting home collecting a paycheck until the end of the contract and option years because I didn’t sign up for this shxt... kind of like the border wall folks. Government breached the contract so the companies get paid for the work they aren’t doing.


8 posted on 10/14/2021 4:21:52 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I would think they are already pretty well radiated and such, well, except for the office staff perhaps and critical material handlers still wear protective gear one would hope.


9 posted on 10/14/2021 4:25:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!! In CONgre$$ WE're Disgusted!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Maybe other nations wishing to develop their nuclear industry can take an interest in these poorly treated employees.


10 posted on 10/14/2021 4:28:51 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

These folks fully understand risk and mediation. The sheep taking the vax are the dangerous ones around nuclear energy.


11 posted on 10/14/2021 4:38:09 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: maddog55
I work for clients that are Federal contractors, and I'm being informed that this mandate applies to me.

From what I can see, the Federal mandate for contractors doesn't apply to existing contracts. Provisions related to the mandate are being added to NEW contracts starting sometime around now.

12 posted on 10/14/2021 4:58:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: cgbg

Back around 2017, Los Alamos had several safety violations which actually caused Los Alamos to be shut down for a few months for investigation. I believe one of the issues was that a worker had decided to place some plutonium rods in a pretty configuration so they could take some nice pictures. I think another one was that shipped some material on a commercial airline.

So, just because they work in a nuclear lab, doesn’t necessarily mean they are all that smart.


13 posted on 10/14/2021 5:13:59 PM PDT by voicereason (The RNC is like the "one-night stand" you wish you could forg)
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To: Alberta's Child

Unfortunately the way they wrote it, it doesn’t matter if you are working that contract or not…it still applies to you. That is why the Southwest thing is so bad. 3% of their business is govt…but even taking $1 makes the mandate apply to 100% of the company. Read the document. Sucks.


14 posted on 10/14/2021 5:14:39 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Dumb question for Freepers out there ...

If an employee or contractor is in a position where he must attest to his vaccination status and intends to seek a religious exemption in the future, is it better to attest that he is not vaccinated, or indicate that he will not disclose his vaccination status?

15 posted on 10/14/2021 5:15:15 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: vmivol00
I know exactly how it works. The good news for me is that my assignment has already begun. I'll simply notify this client that I won't be working on any future assignments for them.

What makes this so ludicrous is that the client's office is 400 miles away from me and I'll never be there, and their office is 200 miles away from Washington D.C.

16 posted on 10/14/2021 5:20:07 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: maddog55

Interesting comments. Thanks.


17 posted on 10/14/2021 5:22:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Alberta's Child
I am not a lawyer, as you likely already know based on our previous posts to one another, but I did speak with the local managing partner of a multi-state firm that specializes in labor law recently. The overall synopsis of that discussion is captured in this post, with other details posted further down the thread in response to others.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4002103/posts?page=44#44

I did ask him a question close to the one you're posting, and his response was that he felt the HIPPA laws protecting one's privacy of medical condition or status would likely be some of the stronger arguments that he or others might build a damages case upon. That also makes common sense, for someone to not tip their hand as to what their actual objection is, unnecessarily.

18 posted on 10/14/2021 5:30:18 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Without treasonous Republicans, the Democrats have zero power.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Very good. Thank you for that! I had been on that thread earlier, but didn't see your great post there.

I have no interest in pursuing any legal case against my client in this situation. The client is probably embarrassed about sending this nonsense out to their contractors in the first place. My intention is to not disclose anything, but I want to make sure I don't preclude a future assertion of a religious exemption (if necessary) by doing that.

19 posted on 10/14/2021 5:40:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: maddog55

You are absolutely right!

Shots need to be in a contract, otherwise it’s a breach... by the government.

Future contracts need to spell it out, and existing ones need to have it addressed via a contract mod; no contract mod, no deal.

And just how long do contract mods take?


20 posted on 10/14/2021 5:40:43 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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