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[UK] A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
The Expose (UK) ^ | 10 October 2021

Posted on 10/13/2021 8:38:06 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

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To: dinodino
you’re doomed to just be a gullible sucker for crap like this article.

Haha. Says the guy who thinks the vax is safe and effective.

#DefinesGullible


81 posted on 10/14/2021 11:18:13 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: cuz1961

“Funded the creation of a virus who’s vaccine he has a patent on that gives people aids.”

All the more reason IMO to have him tried and executed for genocide and other crimes against humanity.


82 posted on 10/14/2021 11:18:23 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: Mom MD
we already know. it’s not science of any kind let alone good science

What do you know about science, dear?

#ScienceDenier


83 posted on 10/14/2021 11:19:27 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

As usual, Bagster chimes in without bothering to do any reading. Go ahead and read the PHE docs, and then come back here and try to defend this article with a straight face—I triple dog dare you.


84 posted on 10/14/2021 11:38:02 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: bagster

several advanced degrees and a career in medicine would say a good deal more than you sweetie. Now be a good q cultist and go back to your basement with your teenage overlord


85 posted on 10/14/2021 11:39:38 AM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: dinodino
As usual, Bagster chimes in without bothering to do any reading. Go ahead and read the PHE docs, and then come back here and try to defend this article with a straight face—I triple dog dare you.

You act like this article is the only voice saying the fake poison vax causes immunity problems.

You vax shills like to 'debunk' each voice piecemeal, while disregarding the totality of the 'science'. Its how you do.

Sorry, bro. The science is against you.

#FollowTheScience

#YouveAlreadyLost


86 posted on 10/14/2021 11:47:15 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Can’t reply with a substantive answer? Show me where in any of the PHE docs cited as sources the author’s thesis is supported. I know you won’t, because you can’t, and you’d rather believe unscientific garbage than read anything.


87 posted on 10/14/2021 11:49:23 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: Mom MD
several advanced degrees and a career in medicine would say a good deal more than you sweetie. Now be a good q cultist and go back to your basement with your teenage overlord

Interesting argument, hon. Did you know Fauci has several advanced degrees and a career in medicine?

That doesn't prevent him from being an evil fraud.

Now be a good q cultist and go back to your basement with your teenage overlord.

Can't. Now that I've taken you under my wing (special project), I must remain on the job. Its time you got a REAL education.

The medical community and science demands it.


88 posted on 10/14/2021 11:52:08 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: dinodino
Can’t reply with a substantive answer? Show me where in any of the PHE docs cited as sources the author’s thesis is supported. I know you won’t, because you can’t, and you’d rather believe unscientific garbage than read anything.

Your argument is childish. Read the article. Words mean things. Then add what you've read to the plethora of other voices saying the same thing.

You don't get to 'debunk' THIS article while ignoring the rest of the science as if it didn't exist.

But your 'read the study' strategy looks good on paper. If children were reading your paper. Trouble is, we're growed.


89 posted on 10/14/2021 11:55:48 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: cuz1961

There is a “big” difference between HIV AIDS and what amounts to a depleted immune system. The first is caused by an incurable underlying virus. The other the result of a medical intervention like chemo therapy. Maybe like comparing roller skates to a dump truck.

The article didn’t take a long term view of “vaxx AIDS” so who knows? Maybe like remission cancer patients the immune system could revive.

Otherwise, I agree with the rest of your sentiments.


90 posted on 10/14/2021 12:08:43 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: bagster

Sorry. I’m already happily married. you will have to find someone else to stalk


91 posted on 10/14/2021 12:12:07 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Mom MD
Sorry. I’m already happily married. you will have to find someone else to stalk

Stalk? No pumpkin. I'm doing you a favor.

You should have had an intervention years ago, then you wouldn't be in the mess you're in now.


92 posted on 10/14/2021 12:14:44 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Face it: the author made up his conclusion and cited documents which fail to support it. Believe it if you like, or alternatively, shift your brain out of neutral and actually think for yourself and read the article and the purported supporting documents.

I bet you believe in chemtrails and a flat Earth too.


93 posted on 10/14/2021 12:23:24 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
I bet you believe in chemtrails and a flat Earth too.

Remind me not to go to Vegas with you, Moosh.


94 posted on 10/14/2021 12:40:17 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: mdmathis6
 

mdmathis6 wrote:At the hospital where I work we simply saw more younger skewing patients with this last wave but
riddled with co-morbidities and being super overweight. The sick were about 90 percent unvaxxed and about 10 percent vaxxed.

ransomnote: It's a miracle! Your fake hospital conforms to the Fauci line completely!

mdmathis6 wrote: I work in our ICU...

ransomnote: Oh, another fake doctor FR here to tell us not to believe our eyes, ears, personal experience and researchers/doctors who provide proof the CDC/FAUCI/NIH/FDA are weaponized and lying.

mdmathis6 wrote: ...so the patients who got really sick and had to come to our ICU were at times close to 100 percent unvaxxed.

ransomnote: A miracle that defies reality! Why is it fake FR doctors always work in hospitals which defy all other normal hospitals?

mdmathis6 wrote: The few that were vaxxed had had cancer with recent chemo or other autoimmune issues and the shots were never going to work for them.

ransomnote: You can say that again. The 'shots' accelerate cancer to a striking degree.

mdmathis6 wrote: One recent JJ shot breakthru needed high flow o2 and some extra TLC. He improved and got better and transferred out and went home.

ransomnote: Lucky guy...well...not lucky. Some hospitals give Ivermectin to the vaxxinated to make it look like the 'shots' are working. By contrast, if you are unvaccinated, they give you kidney/heart damaging Remdesivir and intubate you to death.

Most Covid-19 Deaths were a direct result of the administration of Midazolam or Remdesivir – By Dr Mike Yeadon
theexpose.uk ^ | OCTOBER 11, 2021 | Dr. Mike Yeadon

mdmathis6 wrote: Now.... off the ICU floor and in the general floor populations of both vaxxed and unvaxxed Covids...

ransomnote: You know there's no valid test for Covid? Do you ever wonder what happened to 38 million cases of influenza?

mdmathis6 wrote: ....85 percent got better with fluid and o2 support and went home. The 15 percent who didn’t get better came to us in our ICU. The 15 percent we got in ICU, like I mentioned earlier, were at times nearly 100 percent unvaxxed.

ransomnote: Again - there's that statistical anomaly that only occurs in Fake FR doctor hospitalsl! Oh and fake male nurse hospitals too.

mdmathis6 wrote: We lose 80 percent of them. It was 90 percent but we’ve had some success with ECMO and also the patient ages were skewing younger so being of younger age was helpful in helping some survive. Having no co-morbidities was helpful and control of coagulopathies to avoid strokes,PE’s, bleeds and heart-attacks is primary.

ransomnote: Hospitals lose 80 but Dr. Zelenko's protocol, and that of other doctors (e.g., Dr. McCullough's APS protocol) are 85%+ successful. That's why hospitals don't use those good protocols, why they deny access to ivermectin, why the delay treatment, why they use remdesivir and actually make patients sicken and die.

mdmathis6 wrote: 90 percent of the unvaxxed were african American or Latino browns. The rest were mainly old white guys with bad alcohol problems, kidney, heart and lung issues. Age ranges had been 45 on up...now 25 on up. Most hadn’t been started on any Ivermectin or Hydroxy early enough to make any difference if they had been started on anything at all. We are trying some new stuff...

ransomnote: Oh yeah. "new stuff" Ignore the protocols and medications that work well and experiment with 'new stuff'. Hey how come you're fake hospital is 'violating' CDC Covid Protocol? I mean, you haven't mentioned highly destructive remdesivir yet. I think everything about your fake hospital is fake - even your treatment protocols.

mdmathis6 wrote: Avidaptil(sic) was one name I saw...but our numbers of admittance are dropping and declines in the latest wave are being seen now in Central Va. So perhaps Covid alpha and Delta(no one tests for the strains here so no one knows) has taken all that it will take for now.

ransomnote: there are no tests for Covid alpha or Delta or any other Covid. Why don't you know this? Surely even you, a fake doctor, knows that no hospital documentation records Delta anywhere unless it's in letters hospital admin sends to pressure staff to get the clot shot.

mdmathis6 wrote:  I think I was prompted to write because I think the increased numbers you talk about and what we saw were still mostly the unvaxxed getting sick with the newest strains.

ransomnote: More fake science from you. 
Dr. Yeadon explained that a researcher tested those previously ill with SARS1 in 2003 again with the same virus (SARS1) in 2021 and they were still immune post illness.

That same researcher tested those 2003 (SARS1) patients with SARS2 Covid. The patients were immune. Why? Because our immune systems don't have to build a completely new immune defense for similar viruses. SARS1 and SARS2 were only 22% different and the immune system saw enough to attack, dismantle and defeat the pathogen.

The 'variants' are lies, you see. They could only be a few percentage points different (1%-2% at this point). Our immune systems recognize it. Makes me queasy to think what the CDC puts in 'annual' influenza vaccines which are for the most part, stupid and pointless for minor variations.

Variants are actually those suffering horribly from having the 'vaccine'. They planned ahead - they knew we would sicken and die in unusual numbers so they planned to call the onset 'variants' and demand more get the bioweapon (shot).

Whistleblower! Nurse DESTROYS "Delta" Narrative, VACCINATED Patients Fill Hospital (transcript and 15 minute video, important information for you and your family)
redvoicemedia.com ^ | September 8, 2021 | Stew Peters, Nurse Whistleblower

mdmathis6 wrote:  The vaxxed were getting breakthru illness but by and large were survivng. Had the Covid waves held off and started later, given the reported declines of vax effeciveness over time,

ransomnote: The 'vaccines' were never effective. Did you see how Pfizer distorted their data and ignored 3000 sick people to get their 'efficacy rates' to look right? Had they counted those sick people, the fake 'vaccine' they push would only be 19% 'effective' for that 2 month period. With more time, the effectiveness would be exposed as a lie.

mdmathis6 wrote:  I believe we would be seeing more vax breakthrus coming to our ICU and perhaps not surviving in addition to unvaxxed populations. The covid waves are hitting harder in Northern Blue states now and the effectiveness of the vaxxes of those in those states who were vaccinated earlier in the year has had more time to wear off in many of these blue state people than in those vaxxed in Central Va and southern states where Covid rates are now declining.(I repeat...a lot of people in the Northern states got the shot at the same time as the southern states and given that the same shots wear off at the same rates, a later Covid spike in the blue states will hit the vaxxed a lot harder than they did in the southern states where the Covid wave has all ready passed) That might also account for some anomalies you might be seeing.

ransomnote: Prayers up for vaccinated and unvaccinated being preyed upon by fake doctors, Fauci/NIH/FDA/CDC and sadly, many hospitals.

mdmathis6 wrote:  I fear a blood bath.

ransomnote: not true. If you feared a blood bath you would not be here supporting the 'vaccine' with fake medical credentials, magical hospital stories and lies.

mdmathis6 wrote:  My own Mother’s NHome in NY state(she’s there for rehab and almost ready to be discharged) is locked down.

ransomnote: that usually means only loved ones or advocates are barred from visiting. Anyone else (vendors, etc.) can come and go without question.

mdmathis6 wrote:  A dozen people all vaxxed and some vaxxed staff too have been hit with covid...some very sick and one has died just yesterday. My mother has tested negative so far and she had the moderna but hasn’t been “boosted” yet.

ransomnote: it seems the 'narrative' has been working to turn the exposure of the 'vaccines' as toxic failures into a bonus by claiming they are waning and urging people to  hurry back for more BOOST. The boost that maims and kills.


95 posted on 10/14/2021 1:44:15 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: dinodino

Credibility.... Anything posted using info from the CDC, NIH, Worldometer, Fauci, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, AOC and the squad, Shiff, Nadler etc, etc would also be a credibility problem.

If you have issues with a post, don’t read it or comment on it. It’s like TV, change the channel.

Going all woke and liberal because something offends you as pure garbage makes you all woke and liberal.

If the post was utter garbage then provide an argument as to why it is and back it up with facts.


96 posted on 10/14/2021 2:50:58 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: maddog55

I’ve explained three times to you credulous lot in this thread that the source documents cited in the article don’t in any way back up the author’s claims. You clearly have a computer with a Web browser, or you wouldn’t be able to read this thread. Go to the PHE site, select any three weeks’ reports which are covered in the time periods described in the article, and find for yourself support for the author’s central claim that the immune system is destroyed—you won’t be able to, because IT’S NOT THERE.

Suppose I said, “The Bible says it’s okay to lie about your neighbour and f*** his wife.” Would you say, “Oh, gosh, that’s interesting,” or would you say, “SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT, IDIOT!” I bet it’s the latter. I’m challenging anyone backing the claims in this article to show me where it says that.


97 posted on 10/14/2021 2:59:00 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: bagster

I like your style. You remind me of the guy who arrives late to a boring party and gets everyone swinging from the chandeliers.


98 posted on 10/14/2021 3:00:23 PM PDT by Ceebass (USA RIP 1776-2021)
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To: ransomnote; Admin Moderator

I’m Michael Mathis RN working in Central Virginia and quite willing to put my name out and vouch for what I’ve been observing! I’m not internet anonymous whatever stoking fear and half truths. Conditions differ from locale to locale and may not always fit your pre-biased narratives! I’ve been doing this 35 years and am heart-broken over the destruction that the woke tards have done to American medicine! I don’t have all the answers that fit your nice neat little snark replies!

Ransomnote you coward...you put your name and qualifications out there. I’ve seen a lot of death and misery with this disease. Conditions in different locales don’t always match with the general numbers. You try watching 80 percent of your covid patients die and then celebrate the 20 percent who get saved! We aren’t always packed to the gills with covid patients and we handle the work loads okay, they come in waves...but I have to help ride herd on our newer nurses who are very talented but have become very discouraged!

The Lord judge between me and you if I have been lying!


99 posted on 10/14/2021 3:24:24 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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To: mdmathis6

Thank you for your dedication and hard work during these awful times.

People that have never been involved with making a difference in whether someone lives or dies can Never understand what ones heart and soul carries for life.

Yet, no matter what outcome 20 patients had before the patient in front you right now, you approach and react as if this time it will work, this time they will live, this one will be different.

Thank you for your service, and God Bless you.


100 posted on 10/14/2021 3:37:01 PM PDT by David Chase
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