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Covid, in Retreat; New cases in the U.S. have fallen by more than a third in the past month. (wait for the seasonality to kick in if the shots don't work)
NY Times ^ | October 4, 2021 | David Leonhardt

Posted on 10/04/2021 8:11:00 PM PDT by DoodleBob

Covid-19 is once again in retreat.

The reasons remain somewhat unclear, and there is no guarantee that the decline in caseloads will continue. But the turnaround is now large enough — and been going on long enough — to deserve attention.

The number of new daily cases in the U.S. has fallen 35 percent since Sept. 1:

Worldwide, cases have also dropped more than 30 percent since late August. “This is as good as the world has looked in many months,” Dr. Eric Topol of Scripps Research wrote last week.

These declines are consistent with a pattern that regular readers of this newsletter will recognize: Covid’s mysterious two-month cycle. Since the Covid virus began spreading in late 2019, cases have often surged for about two months — sometimes because of a variant, like Delta — and then declined for about two months.

Epidemiologists do not understand why. Many popular explanations, like seasonality or the ebbs and flows of social distancing, are clearly insufficient, if not wrong. The two-month cycle has occurred during different seasons of the year and occurred even when human behavior was not changing in obvious ways.

The most plausible explanations involve some combination of virus biology and social networks. Perhaps each virus variant is especially likely to infect some people but not others — and once many of the most vulnerable have been exposed, the virus recedes. ...

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The most encouraging news is that serious Covid illnesses are also declining. The number of Americans hospitalized with Covid has fallen about 25% since 9/1. Daily deaths — which typically change direction a few weeks after cases and hospitalizations — have fallen 10% since 9/20...


(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chatforum; covid19; covid1984; fakenews; newyorkslimes; seasonality
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...however, looking at the longer-term trends of cases and fatalities...

...against the backdrop of the strong seasonal pattern of different causes of death (but notably, that for Pneumonia & Influenza)...

...it seems very likely we will get a seasonal surge very soon if it turns out the shots don't work as intended/to PREVENT the virus.

Viruses gonna virus. It's not surprising.

Anyone who promotes eradication as a policy goal is either a fool or a statist (or both). A very likely reality, is that this bug will be with us forever - an airborne illness with a higher case fatality rate than influenza but not as contagious.

As nully says, Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else. (hangings are a different story).

1 posted on 10/04/2021 8:11:00 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

“Suddenly” Covid cases are dropping like a rock?

I’ll bet.

I wonder what they are up to now…….


2 posted on 10/04/2021 8:14:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: DoodleBob

… it seems very likely we will get a seasonal surge very soon if it turns out the shots don’t work as intended, to prevent the virus (from transmitting/causing disease?) …
Can we tell that was the intent of the shots?

Seems to me that it really is a sop to the big pharma companies to make “billions” as one news article noted just recently.
3 posted on 10/04/2021 8:16:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DoodleBob

The only reason the Jabs appeared to work was that the majority took place over the Summer where infections a low anyway. Wait until this Fall, normal Flu season.


4 posted on 10/04/2021 8:18:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: DoodleBob
Wadda ya mean "if the shots don't work"?!

The shots work great at driving the mutations we call "variants"...which keep the virus alive.

5 posted on 10/04/2021 8:23:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Those destroying the Constitution must demonize those who would defend it.)
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To: DoodleBob

I am very concerned. The coming winter will be a harsh one with both Covid and the flu. Both will blame non vax people but the truth is we have dramaticly altered normal behavior. That and the Fauci GOF coronavirus that will continue to mutate. The vax can can do thing to help. Will be interesting. Everyone pray for a warm mild winter and some serious virologist to get their heads out of the ass of government grants.

My guess is there is a simple treatment out there just waiting for identification. Ivermectin maybe or something else. Idk but the won’t try/test so they won’t either. Hard code weather or a goofy mutation and things will get sporty no matter how many trillions of the rMNA you inject.


6 posted on 10/04/2021 8:25:13 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: wgmalabama

Vax Can not do anything to help at this point. By bad posting. Sorry. Will get posted to on both sides now. Idk. Might be fun. Maybe I can play a condescending Dr to some and a rabid denier to others. Fact is the Fed.Gov screwed this up from the start. Liberals natural state is a CF.


7 posted on 10/04/2021 8:29:04 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: metmom
I'm wondering the same thing. Nothing gets printed in the NY Slimes without DNC approval.
8 posted on 10/04/2021 8:33:41 PM PDT by GrannyAnn ( )
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To: metmom
“Suddenly” Covid cases are dropping like a rock?

Don't worry, they'll come up with a way to make them shoot up so that they can keep the lock downs, mask mandates and vax mandates going.

9 posted on 10/04/2021 8:34:33 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (It seems the soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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To: DoodleBob

10 posted on 10/04/2021 8:37:05 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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To: metmom

“Suddenly” Covid cases are dropping like a rock?
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I’ll bet.

I wonder what they are up to now…….


And, FRAUDci the Grinch says we can have Christmas in Whoville....just as the long-time NIH Director steps down.

Hmmmmm.

🤔


11 posted on 10/04/2021 8:40:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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..... The reasons remain somewhat unclear .....


Riiiiight.

You know something’s up when the Slimes doesn’t credit these hazardous shots.

Something stinks in ChyNa.


12 posted on 10/04/2021 8:43:16 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: GrannyAnn; ransomnote; Roman_War_Criminal; Tilted Irish Kilt; null and void; Jane Long

I wonder how much the uprisings in Australia and elsewhere are playing into them backing off.

Could be they have just decided to let this one slide for now since it’s not working out as planned. In which case, they MUST have a backup plan to put into effect.

I guess the question is whether they will let things settle down for the holidays and hit us after them, or try to hit us just before Christmas. And I would expect the next round to be actually more serious than this was.

And I can’t help but wonder if it’s going to be a virus that specifically targets the vaxxed or not. Or if it’s going to be something just slightly more virulent in reality but will be portrayed as worse because people will be having bad reactions due to ADE. I could see the facts being the individuals immune system doing them in but it being blamed on a virus that is allegedly extra virulent but really isn’t.


13 posted on 10/04/2021 8:43:29 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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Exactly...that's why I added my seasonality bit. They are softening us up for the seasonal surge, that they'll blame on the unvaxxed.

The problem will be, that the seasonal numbers will be too big to blame on the unvaxxed.

My guess is, they'll start to say the shots that were developed under Trump are ineffective.

Then they'll turn to NEW shots developed under Harris' watchful eye. Libs will flock to the new shots, Bidet will step down, infections will "magically" decline, and Harris will have the wind at her back for 2024. /tinfoil hat.

14 posted on 10/04/2021 8:46:43 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: metmom

http://www.theoccultmuseum.com/the-strange-story-of-nuns-that-meowed-like-cats-and-7-other-cases-of-mass-hysteria


15 posted on 10/04/2021 8:47:25 PM PDT by blackdog (Sophisticated so public policy is not applicable. )
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To: Jane Long

Probably needs its own thread but...

Possibility of deterioration of respiratory status when steroids precede antiviral drugs in patients with COVID-19 pneumonia: A retrospective study

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0256977


16 posted on 10/04/2021 8:48:34 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: metmom

“I wonder what they are up to now…….”

One thing for sure - they are in one hell of a hurry to needlessly ‘vaccinate’ as many people as possible, given that the virus is dying off. Will the virus return before the Ivermectin derivatives are in widespread use, and thereby snuff out the virus completely - that’s the big question on my mind.


17 posted on 10/04/2021 8:48:48 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: metmom

Great questions.

Something is definitely up.

Their VERY HARD shot push (via corporate/federal) mandates was certainly a tell. Trying to diminish the control group, as much and as quickly, as possible.

It will be a curious winter.


18 posted on 10/04/2021 8:50:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: metmom

And I can’t help but wonder if it’s going to be a virus that specifically targets the vaxxed or not. Or if it’s going to be something just slightly more virulent in reality but will be portrayed as worse because people will be having bad reactions due to ADE. I could see the facts being the individuals immune system doing them in but it being blamed on a virus that is allegedly extra virulent but really isn’t.
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This Marburg’s sounds pretty bad to me and a PCR test to detect this already exists, and a vaccine-riccin derivitive called RiVAX was mentioned in a video I ran across-unfortunately, I did not bookmark the video:

The next pandemic: Marburg?
22 April 2021 – by Priya Joi

Skipping to the vaccine info for an excerpt:

Marburg virus vaccine candidates are being investigated, and in 2019, for example, IAVI (the International AIDS Vaccine Initiative) began researching a recombinant vesicular stomatitis virus (VSV) vector Marburg virus vaccine candidate, called rVSVΔG-MARV-GP.

Another vaccine candidate MVA-BN Filo containing both Marburg and Ebola virus antigens could potentially protect against both haemorrhagic viruses.

It is currently in phase 3 trials, and seems to trigger good immunity against the Ebola Zaire strain but it has not yet been tested against Marburg virus. ...snip...

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/next-pandemic/marburg

NOTE: GAVI is a Bill Gates backed vaccine alliance.


19 posted on 10/04/2021 8:53:52 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Olog-hai
Can we tell that was the intent of the shots?

Let's look at the actual FDA and Pfizer-BioNTech info.

Per the FDA's website,

On August 23, 2021, the FDA approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty, for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older.(emphasis added)

Per the Comernity Insert,

--------------------------- INDICATIONS AND USAGE----------------------------
COMIRNATY is a vaccine indicated for active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (1)(emphasis added>

Per the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action, under "Indication"

Active immunization to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in individuals 16 years of age and older. (Emphasis added)

Clearly, the vaccine is for PREVENTION. Nothing else. All of the clinical trials (limited as they were) and statistical confidence intervals were focused on Vaccine Efficacay (VE) with regard to PREVENTION...not hospitalization, not ER visits, and not symptoms.

20 posted on 10/04/2021 8:55:24 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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