Posted on 09/29/2021 9:40:30 PM PDT by Mount Athos
We found no significant difference in cycle threshold values between vaccinated and unvaccinated, asymptomatic and symptomatic groups infected with SARS-CoV-2 Delta. Given the substantial proportion of asymptomatic vaccine breakthrough cases with high viral levels, interventions, including masking and testing, should be considered for all in settings with elevated COVID-19 transmission.
“Masking”?
The mRNA experimental jabs serve no purpose other than to reduce your lifespan and inflict serious complications.
Seems to lay the groundwork for lawsuits against employers who discriminated against and fired their unvaccinated employees.
No surprise here. Vaccines do not prevent people from catching or spreading covid. They are not “breakthrough cases” regardless of what politicians, media and drug companies have claimed. This is totally expected. In fact, the vaccinated are probably the super spreaders because they are walking around with a false sense of security (and superiority). They are less likely to get severely ill from covid for some period of time (unknown and probably depends on the individual) but that’s about it.
Would be nice if they actually broke data down by vaccine brand, and by time from vaccination, and by age group, and by other metrics. You know, “scientific” type stuff.
Unvaccinated people may or may not be infected.
Chances are they are not infected.
Vaccinate people are for sure infected.
So ONLY the magik mask will do!
And the vaunted PCR test can’t even tell Delta from Alpha or COVID from rum & coke.
Science went down on their knees for politics a long time ago. It’s the hypocritical oath now. Just bend over it’ll only hurt for a moment.
They really havent stated what test or tests they are basing the result as a case. With all the bad tests lately you really cant believe the case counts. NM has had have constant case elevations but lately about a 30 percent drop in hospitalizations. From 380 or so. A few weeks ago down to 280 currently.
Summary: • A UC Davis study finds that vaccinated people (n=869) are just as contagious as unvaccinated as there was no significant difference in viral load (Ct-values) between vaccinated and unvaccinated, asymptomatic and symptomatic groups infected with SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant (doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264262 Posted September 29, 2021). This “highlights the need for additional studies of the immunological status of such vaccine escapes and how infectious they are..... asymptomatic vaccinated individuals may increasingly contribute to the ongoing pandemic as the proportion of vaccinated individuals grows.” The data gathered in this study during the surge of the Delta variant strongly support the notion that neither vaccine status nor the presence or absence of symptoms should influence the recommendation and implementation of good public health practices”.
This study concurs with another study that the actual CDC did in July and published recently. Shows the government has know this and have let the false narrative be spread that it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated. F’ng liars!!!!
• During a COVID-19 outbreak involving the Delta variant in a highly vaccinated (79% were fully vaccinated) incarcerated population at a small (233 persons) federal Texas prison, transmission rates were 70% among vaccinated persons and 93% among unvaccinated prisoners (MMWR. 2021;70(38);1349–1354 September 24). Although attack rates, hospitalizations, and deaths were higher among unvaccinated than among vaccinated persons, duration of positive serial test results was similar for both groups. Infectious virus was cultured from vaccinated and unvaccinated infected persons. Prevention protocols included mandatory masking and mandatory daily COVID-19 symptom screening and temperature check. Maintaining multicomponent prevention strategies (e.g., testing and masking for all persons and prompt medical isolation and quarantine).
Why do you clowns insist on obtaining your “knowldege” from invalid sources?
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From the CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
“For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people.”
You’re really too ignorant to try to decipher what that means, I’m not trying to be rude...I mean by ignorant that you lack a formal understanding of scientific, statistical, and logical thinking. You really need to read more summaries in general that are published by reputable sources. You’ll find that the vaccines are very successful at protecting people and they are very safe.
C.S. Lewis (Christian Writer) add some thoughts on science and government:
“I do not like the pretensions of Government — the grounds on which it demands my obedience — to be pitched too high. I don’t like the medicine-man’s magical pretensions nor the Bourbon’s Divine Right. This is not solely because I disbelieve in magic and in Bossuet’s Politique. I believe in God, but I detest theocracy. For every Government consists of mere men and is, strictly viewed, a makeshift; if it adds to its commands ‘Thus saith the Lord’, it lies, and lies dangerously. On just the same ground I dread government in the name of science. That is how tyrannies come in. In every age the men who want us under their thumb, if they have any sense, will put forward the particular pretension which the hopes and fears of that age render most potent. They ‘cash in’. It has been magic, it has been Christianity. Now it will certainly be science. Perhaps the real scientists may not think much of the tyrants’ ‘science’— they didn’t think much of Hitler’s racial theories or Stalin’s biology. But they can be muzzled.”
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“Two wars necessitated vast curtailments of liberty, and we have grown, though grumblingly, accustomed to our chains. The increasing complexity and precariousness of our economic life have forced Government to take over many spheres of activity once left to choice or chance. Our intellectuals have surrendered first to the slave-philosophy of Hegel, then to Marx, finally to the linguistic analysts. As a result, classical political theory, with its Stoical, Christian, and juristic key-conceptions (natural law, the value of the individual, the rights of man), has died. The modern State exists not to protect our rights but to do us good or make us good — anyway, to do something to us or to make us something. Hence the new name ‘leaders’ for those who were once ‘rulers’. We are less their subjects than their wards, pupils, or domestic animals. There is nothing left of which we can say to them, ‘Mind your own business.’ Our whole lives are their business. I write ‘they’ because it seems childish not to recognize that actual government is and always must be oligarchical. Our effective masters must be more than one and fewer than all. But the oligarchs begin to regard us in a new way.”
You go around throwing insults and lecturing others, but it’s obvious to everyone here that you are not as smart as you think you are.
Scientists and government agencies *REGULARLY* cite those preprints you claim are TOTALLY INVALID.
You say they are totally invalid because you do not know what you are talking about.
Everyone knows the limitations of studies that have not been peer reviewed. It is a standard caution. It doesn’t mean the information is INVALID.
You are a clown
I was not responding to whether the vaccines are effective or safe. Just to your response that this study (similar viral loads) is not to be trusted. And using the CDC’s statement as a rebuttal.
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