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Amtrak train was going just under speed limit at time of fatal derailment in Montana
NY Post ^ | 09/28/2021 | Kenneth Garger

Posted on 09/28/2021 6:36:47 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The Amtrak train that derailed in Montana on Saturday was traveling just under the speed limit at the time of crash that killed three people and injured dozens of others, US investigators said Monday.

The westbound Empire Builder was going a touch under 75 mph when it went off the track along a gradual curve in the rural town of Joplin, according to National Transportation Safety Board Vice Chairman Bruce Landsberg.

A 14-member NTSB team is investigating the cause of the wreck that resulted in the derailment of eight of the train’s 10 ten cars.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: amtrak; derailment; montana; train
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Must have been Diaper heads favorite conductor.
1 posted on 09/28/2021 6:36:47 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Most likely a switch miss alignment caused the derailment.


2 posted on 09/28/2021 6:41:15 AM PDT by outpostinmass2 (Y)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The photos I’ve seen show the engines on the tracks and the passenger cars off the tracks.


3 posted on 09/28/2021 6:41:44 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: outpostinmass2

Unlikely (but not impossible), as those switch points have to be closed (within 1/4”) and locked in that position before a clear signal could be given to proceed. Plus, they are checked monthly to that standard.


4 posted on 09/28/2021 6:44:37 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity ("...for the sake of His name." Psalm 23:3)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Sounds like real infrastructure issues.

Trillions to buy votes while the country crumbles.


5 posted on 09/28/2021 6:45:59 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: ChicagoConservative27

an alert frerper pointed out fresh rail road ties in this video? may not mean anything but repairs being made?

https://rumble.com/vmyyj9-3-dead-multiple-injured-after-an-amtrak-train-derails-in-montana.html


6 posted on 09/28/2021 6:49:54 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: ChicagoConservative27

slAmtrak


7 posted on 09/28/2021 6:51:24 AM PDT by KingLudd
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To: ChicagoConservative27
More details here...

Feds launch multiple probes into deadly Amtrak wreck Saturday’s derailment of the Empire Builder in Joplin was the deadliest railroad accident in the United States since 2017.

Wonder if Fedzilla is telling the truth about the speed...

8 posted on 09/28/2021 6:54:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: janetjanet998

Good catch! At about 10 seconds in the video there are three or four ties that have the ends marked with white paint. They are marked for replacement.


9 posted on 09/28/2021 6:54:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Good catch! At about 10 seconds in the video there are three or four ties that have the ends marked with white paint. They are marked for replacement.

Interesting. Definitely there was some tie replacement planned for this section of rail as there are several piles of new wooden ties in the video along the side of the rail bed.


10 posted on 09/28/2021 7:06:25 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

When the Democrats shut down oil pipelines, then oil has to be shipped by rail.

Too many oil trains?


11 posted on 09/28/2021 7:10:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

We do need to spend some money on ACTUAL infrastructure.


12 posted on 09/28/2021 7:18:08 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Sounds like real infrastructure issues.

Trillions to buy votes while the country crumbles.

Train tracks are maintained by the corporation that owns them and not the government. These tracks are owned by BNSF. Amtrak just uses them.

13 posted on 09/28/2021 7:28:00 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I used to pick up loose railroad spikes when I was a kid. I swear I have never been to Montana. (not even for dental floss)


14 posted on 09/28/2021 7:29:26 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nobody in particular
gets interesting about 40 seconds in
15 posted on 09/28/2021 8:00:04 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: DoodleDawg
Correct. And often freight has priority over passenger service and parking empty cars. We rode the Empire Builder home to Fargo roughly 35 years ago.

It made an unscheduled 90 minute stop some 20 odd miles outside Minot because BNSF decided to park some freight cars on the trunk line.

The passenger train didn't get moving again until BNSF decided to move those cars. Most likely because they had another freight train coming through, not for Amtrak's convenience.

16 posted on 09/28/2021 8:02:05 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Flick Lives

I have a railroad track 1/4 mile from me.

They replaced ties this spring...VERY efficient.

Machine hammers out the old tie, and immediately hammers in the new one.

At least 1 miles of track cleaned up. Then-—They ran short trains down & back SLOWLY to settle the gravel.

They have staged materials at every road crossing to make repairs there, also. Don’t know when that will happen. This is rural territory-—NOT alot of alternative streets/roads to use while they block a crossing.


17 posted on 09/28/2021 8:39:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: DoodleDawg

Warren Buffet’s responsibility.


18 posted on 09/28/2021 8:39:56 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“The westbound Empire Builder was going a touch under 75 mph when it went off the track”

The last time I was on an Amtrak, the speed limit was something closer to 25 mph. So maybe some clown changed the sign as a joke?


19 posted on 09/28/2021 9:15:51 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

Out in the middle of Montana, the speed limit is probably a little faster than 25.


20 posted on 09/28/2021 10:02:03 AM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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