Posted on 09/20/2021 3:41:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
Ok, here is what I responded to in its entirety:
Jesus wouldn’t do a useless thing to demonstrate fealty to evil people. The same people who call Ivermectin horse paste. Who call various other therapies unproven so that they can get an emergency exemption and funnel billions of dollars to drug co’s who then kick some back. Jesus would know with whom He was dealing. He would call them liars.
All of your sentences after the single sentence I responded to were to support your contention that those bringing mask mandates are evil. If you read my response, the point I was trying to forward is that we don't get to refuse to do what Christ said (obedience to authority) just because those who are in authority are evil.
Caesar was evil, yet taxes were still paid as Jesus said to do.
You also wrote:
When Caesar is not bound by logic reason or law he weakens his position. Show all the fealty you want to people who as well as demanding masks were shutting down church services and threatening pastors with arrest while they allowed tit houses to operate.
I don’t see where perception comes into it We aren’t ruled by entirely subjective perception. Jesus’s cared about the Truth. I don’t think He gave a damn for every unreasonable jackasses perception.
You seem to be justifiably angry about what is being done to us. I am too. But I don't think the violation of our God given rights as listed in our constitution (right to assemble, for example) releases us from obedience to scriptural principles. Please help me understand how I am misapplying scripture to the issue of wearing masks.
What Paul wrote, essentially, was that the perception of brothers and sisters who are young in their faith is important. Christians who understand the truth, that there is no sin in eating meat sacrificed to idols, should abstain specifically because of the perception of others.
That doesn't mean they should not be educated in the truth. It means that until they are, their perception should be considered in one's behavior.
Thank you
Was offering a pinch of incense before Caesar and saying "Caesar is Lord" an appropriate rendering unto Caesar?
The witness of the Martyrs says, NO!
September 20
Reading
The holy Martyr Eustathius before his baptism was an illustrious Roman general named Placidas in the days of the Emperor Trajan. While hunting in the country one day, he was converted to the Faith of Christ through the apparition of an uncommonly majestic stag, between whose antlers he saw the Cross of Christ, and through which the Lord spoke to him with a human voice. Upon returning home, he learned that his wife Tatiana had also had a vision in which she was instructed to become a Christian. They sought out the Bishop of the Christians and were baptized, Placidas receiving the name Eustathius, and Tatiana the name Theopiste; their two sons were baptized Agapius and Theopistus. The family was then subjected to such trials as Job endured. Their servants died, all their goods were stolen, and on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem they were scattered abroad, each not even knowing if the others were still alive. By the providence of God, they were united again after many years, and returned to Rome in glory. Nevertheless, when they refused to sacrifice to the idols-a public sacrifice from which no Roman general could be absent-the Emperor Hadrian, who had succeeded Trajan, had them put into a large bronze device in the shape of a bull, which was heated with fire until they died. When their holy bodies were removed, they were found to be without harm. They suffered martyrdom about the year 126.
It seems (from New Testament accounts) that Jesus was almost constantly outside, when not in the synagogue. Therefore no mask.
2 Cor 13:12
Greet one another with an holy kiss.
Did he hit his thumb with a hammer when helping Joseph?
Was he tempted to cuss?
“””...the point I was trying to forward is that we don’t get to refuse to do what Christ said (obedience to authority) just because those who are in authority are evil.”””
Authority (Caesar) must be just and fair and at the very least abide by its own rules, which the Romans and their courts did. Jesus said “ Render unto Caesar THAT which IS Caesars” He did NOT say ‘Render unto Caesar what ever pops into his head’. Frankly The Romans were more justified in their authority than the Biden administration is. The Romans fought on the battlefield for the right to rule. They ruled remarkably fairly and they did not sweep aside local religion or courts or ignore their own (over arching) law. They made sometimes amazing civic improvements and created markets in which the ruled over locals participated.
If you will be consistent in your respect for baseless authority then when the evil in America today demand, as they WILL, that you deny your Savior you will do so. They have already attacked the Authority of our Savior in demanding that we endorse deviant marriage and deviant sexual identity. This is the path to outlawing Him. It His authority that enrages them and is driving them. They WILL NOT allow you to respect it. They cant.
Well; except for being a little bit dead.
So, America should be run on the basis of speculation derived from no evidence
Called being “incorrupt”.....a very special type of dead
... to point out something we should all already be painfully aware of. As we debate the incredibly important issue of "would Jesus wear a mask", to be followed by a lively discussion that will include angels, dancing and pin heads (yes, it was; thank you for noticing) we desperately need to recognize who got America here and who keeps it in this condition. Me, and I'm not alone.
2 Chronicles 7:13-14
13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send a plague among My people, 14 and My people [a]who are called by My name humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
I think it best to just stop now with this thread.
Warm regards!
Tal,
I wrote a reply before my “final post”, above, but for some reason it was deleted instead of being posted.
For the sake of not adding redundancy to a redundancy it was probably for the best.
Be well brother.
Ha ha same thing happened to me twice on this thread. Got frustrating as heck. Doesn’t assist the train of thought.
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