Posted on 09/17/2021 2:26:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
> Why did they lock us down for almost 2 years? Seems very unscientific.
Government control, putting us at the mercy of the elites. The lockdown put me in the worst physical condition of my life. Gained 20lbs at the worst point and my numbers were all headed in the wrong direction. If unhealthy people are more vulnerable to Covid, then I would have been better off getting infected at the start.
That is completely wrong. If one survives covid it means their immune system says successful in killing it off. Long term T cells are then trained to recognize it in the future. SARs patients from 2005-6 still have immunity and Covid is derived from SARs.
Otherwise it would be 100% fatal.
I think the money is only part of Fauci’s evil, Fauci and the Democrats want to kill families. He is a mass murder.
Yep. But the guy is science personified. /s
Because there’s no way to control people who are immune.
Fantastic American Thinker article. I have been scratching my head as well as to why these basic facts about immunity science are suddenly ignored. It seems like anyone who paid attention in class should know these things. I am recovered and have given convalescent plasma to help others with Covid. You’re trying to tell me I need the vaccine? And you say I am dumb?
Direct natural immunity should be a given. The interesting thing to debate is the cross immunity that studies are showing. Furthermore, it is logical to assume that if some people have some degree of immunity from previous SARS then there probably are a fair amount of false PCR tests caused by a previous SARS infection. Aren’t doctors and scientists supposed to be some of our smarter people?
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Of course the answer is political and not medical….
The EUA was approved from efficacy tests and not whether the vaccine causes any harm. The initial screening test groups were only healthy adults in a limited age and in perfect health…. No elderly, pregnant nor comorbidities…….
The public health political decision was made that to highlight or bring to the forefront any potential side effects would harm vaccine acceptance by the electorate and be more harmful then blind acceptance……
Effectively, the ruling elite thought the electorate was too stupid to process a honest discussion…..
The they have doubled down with obfuscation and lies. Hiding data and results….
By breaking this trust, ignoring natural immunity and other issues, they have done more damage…
The “other” agenda is 1. To keep covid front and center so the left can steal elections forever. 2. To fleece America to enrich the pharmaceutical companies who then donate to the leftists. A massive money laundering operation.
That’s certainly a possible theory.
3 different ones, all reasonably plausible, were listed (so far) to my post.
Hard to know, as I said.
Something nefarious, I agree.
nonsense
too many corporate quacks and not enough doctors
Because you can’t sell a jab to someone who is already immune.
If insurance companies were paying for these fake vax shots without compensation from taxpayers’ $$, the jabs would stop tomorrow.
Appreciate the links to the videos.
“That is completely wrong. If one survives covid it means their immune system says successful in killing it off. Long term T cells are then trained to recognize it in the future. SARs patients from 2005-6 still have immunity and Covid is derived from SARs.
Otherwise it would be 100% fatal.”
Think about mechanism. Not magical “your immune system was successful”.
The mechanism is during an exposure event you breathe in some number of virus particles. They float around inside the lungs and bump into lung cell receptors and get ensnared. Normal breathing then rubs against and abrades the cell membrane and the particle gets in. The RNA strand replaces the cell’s and it stops processing oxygen and starts making more virions (virus particles).
An alarm goes out (probably the bursting of a cell, spraying out 100s of virions) and the immune system reacts to the alarm and starts making antibodies. Then they take time to migrate to the lungs and coat the receptor sites of the cells.
THIS TAKES TIME. Days.
If you inhaled enough virions you will infect a large number of lung cells, all of which replicate more virions to infect more lung cells. The burst ones are replaced over a period of 8 days and the replacement cells will have receptors clogged by antibodies, which will have arrived by then.
So this entire conversation is about the quantity of virions inhaled at exposure point, how fast they ensnare (Delta is perfectly shaped for the receptors and ensnares quickly) and how fast the RNA replaces the cell’s RNA.
It’s a race between killing off lung cells and getting lung cells defended. It’s not some magic immune system activity that has antibodies with outboard motors on them buzzing around your lungs looking for virus.
100% fatal? Well, Lambda and Mu likely have found a way to get past the clogging up of the receptors by antibodies. When the Chinese designed this virus, they weren’t trying to make a virus that was easily defeated.
Make no mistake here. 100% fatal is not the worst that can happen. Extinction is the worst that can happen, and it is possible. Vax or non vax means nothing. If the virus finds away into the receptors, we’re in huge trouble.
And yet it does, far better than any of the vaccines developed.
With an IFR of .2%, the natural immune system of a normal, healthy individual kicks the crap out of this virus and takes its lunch money.
Because the pharma companies can’t make money off it. Because the goobermint can’t control it.
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