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Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (57% vax w/mild or asymptomatic symptoms)
theatlantic.com ^
| 09.13.2021
| David Zweig
Posted on 09/13/2021 7:59:41 PM PDT by rxsid
Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning
A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.
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From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as “the most reliable pandemic number,” ... On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they’re a lagging signal and don’t account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic’s true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today, suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted—and that it has been shifting over time.
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The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.
This increase was even bigger for vaccinated hospital patients, of whom 57 percent had mild or asymptomatic disease. But unvaccinated patients have also been showing up with less severe symptoms, on average, than earlier in the pandemic: The study found that 45 percent of their cases were mild or asymptomatic since January 21.
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Reports Of Vaccinated Breakthrough Cases/Hospitalizations/Deaths Are On The Rise - Sharply
A sampling of stories from around the country, and world.
When looking at stories, or data, keep in mind the timeframe. Is the data they are sharing/reporting regarding the entire vaccination timeline (from Dec), when there were far fewer variants and far fewer participating in the experimental injections? Or, is it what's happening recently, in the last month or so with a growing pool of variants and participants in the experiments?
It's becoming clear that whatever effectiveness the injections may have, it wanes over a few short months and is far less effective against the current majority Delta variant. Thus the need for 3 and even 4 injections.
If nothing else, just look at the stories from Whatcom County WA below for the 3 periods of time:
February through June (5 months) = 98 cases,
Month of July alone = 95 cases,
Aug. 22 and 28 week only = 187 cases.
That's a significant, clear uptrend of breakthrough cases, the graph of which would look more like this:
Than this
Or this:
- Reports from July Archived Here: COVID Booster Shots for All Americans, Starting Sept. 20 (Increased risk of severe disease among those vaccinated early).
- SF General and UCSF Staff COVID-19 Infections Raise Concern About Rate of Breakthrough Cases - About 80% new cases in July were vax'd (08.01.2021)
- Sunriver Family Reunion Leads To Breakthrough COVID Cases, Hospitalizations (OR) - 62% of the covid infections from the reunion of 28 were vax'd, some of those hospitalized. (Aug 2 2021)
- Breakthrough COVID Cases Among Those Fully Vaccinated Are Rising In Colorado - 20% new cases in first 3 weeks in July were vax'd. (08.02.2021)
- Ocean County got about 100 COVID-19 ‘breakthrough’ infections in the past week (NJ) - 3X more breakthrough cases in last week, than previous ~28 weeks combined. (08.02.2021)
- Quick update on the Israeli vaccine data - It is bad and getting worse. - Older vax'd - 12 fold increase in "serious illness" in last month (08.03.2021)
- New study shows updated numbers for breakthrough cases in Lexington (KY) - Nearly 30% new cases last month were vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Massachusetts breakthrough coronavirus cases jump 1,364 in one week, state’s daily infection tally up 883 amid delta spike - About 1/3 of new cases in last few weeks are vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Despite breakthrough cases and deaths, Utah doctors continue to push vaccination - 3 out of 5 (60%) covid deaths over the weekend were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- Roanoke-area rise in COVID-19 is accompanied by increase in breakthrough cases (VA) - Of the past week’s increase of 371 new cases, and 31 hospitalized, 19% of those two groups are vax'd - Up from 1-3% in previous weeks (08.03.2021)
- Almost 1 in 5 new virus cases in Fredericksburg district are among vaccinated (08.03.2021)
- With 165 cases, Dare County reports 5th highest week of new COVID-19 cases since pandemic began (NC) - 22% were vax'd. The same week last year had a total of 43 positive cases. (08.03.2021)
- S. Korea reports more than 1,100 breakthrough infections, 8 patients in critical condition - The tally is sharply up from 779 a week earlier - A 41% increase from previous week. (08.03.2021)
- Summer volleyball tournaments lead to COVID clusters, including several breakthrough cases - 106 total attendee's from HI, 30 covid positive - 19% and 36% were fully vax'd between two venues. (08.05.2021)
- Amid Delta variant and with almost 50% of NFL positive COVID-19 tests among vaccinated players and staff, union calls for daily testing for all - Between July 25th-August 1st, 65 positive cases among players & staff, 32 were fully vax'd. (08.03.2021)
- 8 Mass. fire departments report breakthrough COVID-19 cases - They're seeing a "recent uptick", sent out an alert. (08.06.2021)
- Milton seeing rise in COVID-19 cases, about half in vaccinated residents (MA) - ~65% of town is vax'd. About 50% of new covid cases in last 2 weeks are vax'd. (08.06.2021)
- About Moderna adverse event reports - Received 300,000 reports of side effects after vax over a 3-month period following the launch of its shot, according to internal report from a company that helps Moderna manage the reports.(08.06.2021)
- Majority of Hospitalized COVID-19 Patients at Hospital in Israel Are Fully Vaccinated: Doctor - 85-90% hospitalizations and 95% of severe patients are fully vax'd. Hospital specializes in nursing care for elderly. (08.07.2021)
- COVID: San Francisco Bay Area Restaurants Temporarily Close Due to Breakthrough Cases Among Staff - 100% new covid cases from vax'd. 3 area restaurants in story, 7 total new covid infections among all staff, all staff were required to be vax'd. Citywide, 78% of all eligible SF is vax'd. (08.08.2021)
- Most COVID-19 Patients at Israel Hospital Fully Vaccinated, Doctor Calls Mandates ‘Diabolic’ - Dr. Kobi Haviv, medical director of Herzog Hospital in Jerusalem: “95% of the severe patients are vaccinated.” Furthermore, “85-90% of the hospitalizations are in fully vaccinated people” (08.08.2021)
- State leaders report 36 breakthrough cases at two Southern W.Va. nursing homes - 69% of the 52 "active" cases were vax'd. (08.09.2021)
- Covid Cases Keep Climbing; More Clusters Reported (Martha’s Vineyard) - Of 48 new cases during first week of Aug, 52% were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)
- CDC Director Admits Claim That Over 99% of In-Hospital Covid Deaths Were Among Unvaccinated People Was Junk - Instead, the actual data was 30X more than stated. 15% of Covid in-hospital deaths in May were vax'd. (08.09.2021)
- [The latest seven-day COVID-19 data for El Paso was released Monday, August 9] - 29% of new cases and 14% death rate were fully vax'd. (08.09.2021)
- NY COVID Hospitalizations Up 229% in Month; Severe Breakthrough Rate Rising in NJ NJ - 18.5% of all new COVID cases, fully vax'd, July 20 - 26. Hospitalization among vax'd Jan - July 26 = 0.004%, from July 20 - July 26 = 3% (74,900% increase). (08.09.2021)
- Don’t Panic, But Breakthrough Cases May Be a Bigger Problem Than You’ve Been Told Current public-health messaging may understate the scale and risk. No good tracking. Every indicator suggests there’s a lot more under the radar than is public. (08.12.2021)
- EXCLUSIVE: At least 74 people on Martha's Vineyard have tested positive for Covid-19 since Barack Obama's maskless 60th birthday bash - the most cases on the island since April (08.13.2021)
- 7 Vaccinated Florida Patients Die of COVID; Nurse Calls Situation 'Disturbing' - All in past 2 weeks. Had treated "hundreds" of COVID patients before & hadn't lost one prior to this.(08.17.2021)
- Hawaii whistleblower: 'More patients dying from vaccine than Covid' - Say's he saw 32 elderly people pass away immediately after taking the Moderna vaccine. Also, medical diagnosis codes changed from other diseases to Covid for billing.(08.17.2021)
- Massive fraud in reporting vaccine injuries; withheld data, pretense of “safe and effective” - EudraVigilance (EU, EEA, Switzerland), MHRA (UK) and VAERS (USA) data, Moderna internal data. (08.17.2021)
- 18 Fully Vaccinated People Die Of COVID-19 In Massachusetts In Past Week - Including 2,500 new breakthrough cases, 496 hospitalizations (in past week). (08.18.2021)
- Israel, Once the Model for Beating Covid, Faces New Surge of Infections - One of the most vaccinated societies, Israel now has one of the highest infection rates in the world, raising questions about the vaccine’s efficacy.(08.18.2021)
- Study: Fully vaccinated people with "breakthrough" COVID Delta infections carry as much virus as the unvaccinated (UK/Oxford) - vaccinated people with "breakthrough" infections could still pose a significant infection risk to those who have not been vaccinated. (08.19.2021)
- Whatcom County’s reported COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough cases nearly double in July (WA) - County breakthrough cases February through June = 98. July cases alone = 95. (08.19.2021)
- In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge - Fully vax'd infections: March 2021 = 2%, June = 20%, July = 30%. Fully vax'd hospitalizations: April = 5%, July = 13%. (08.19.2021)
- The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge - “If you’re limiting yourself to a small subpopulation with only hospitalizations and deaths, you risk a biased viewpoint.” (08.20.2021)
- BOMBSHELL UK data destroys entire premise for vaccine push - 2/3rds of Delta deaths in the UK were vax'd. 02/01 - 08/02 742 deaths, 402 fully vax'd, 79 partially vax'd and 253 unvax'd. (08.21.2021)
- Israeli PM: You're not protected with only 2 COVID shots - Warns fully vaccinated people 'must quickly get the 3rd dose' (08.24.2021)
- Over 60% of deaths in Clark County, NV, (Las Vegas) are now in vaccinated people. - Alex Berenson research. (08.24.2021)
- 52% of Southern Nevada COVID-19 Deaths Were Fully Vaccinated? That's What This Data Says - August 11th – August 19th, 96 deaths, 50 were fully vax'd. Majority of breakthrough cases since 08/04 did NOT have preexisting conditions.(08.25.2021)
- Guess What All 4 of the Dallas Cowboys Who Recently Tested Positive for Covid Have in Common - All were fully vaccinated. Player vax rate is 93%. See above, 08/03, regarding league wide earlier this month. (08.25.2021)
- **** The Following Is From The Most Recent Week ****
- Scientists: Fully vaccinated carry 251 times the Covid viral load as unvaccinated - Oxford University Clinical Research Group published in The Lancet. (08.26.2021)
- Deaths in 80%-Vaccinated UK Up TENFOLD From This Time Last Year When Zero Were Vaccinated - "More than 70% of the deaths are in the vaccinated, and the percentage continues to rise" (08.28.2021)
- A team of scientists has found why elderly people are more susceptible to COVID-19 (Israel) - Researcher recommends continual/perpetual vaccinations "Even every three or four months, vaccinate them again and again" (08.30.2021)
- West Virginia sees 25% increase in deaths of fully vaccinated - Also, fully vax'd: 26% increase in cases, 21% increase in hospitalizations. 02/01-08/02 age 50+, 389 deaths vax'd, 205 deaths unvax'd. (08.30.2021)
- Quarter of Midland hospital COVID-19 patients are fully vaccinated (MI) - Trend is that these people were early vax'd (i.e. injection waning over several months). (08.30.2021)
- Wisconsin sees increase in vaccinated COVID cases - "Case numbers increasing twice as fast in vaccinated individuals." June to July, vax'd population 771% increase, unvax'd population 346% increase.(09.03.2021)
- Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than The Unvaccinated In England - Feb 01 to Aug 02, 0.86 percent death rate for vax'd, 0.17 percent for unvax'd. Report here (Table 5). (09.03.2021)
- Despite 95% vaccination rate, Cornell today has five times more COVID cases than it did this time last year (Ivy League, NY) - 322 cases Aug. 27 to Sept. 2 of this academic year - 59 cases Sept 3-9 last year. (09.04.2021)
- ‘We’re At Our Highest Spike’: Georgia Bulldogs Dealing With COVID Outbreak Among Vaccinated - "3 or 4 players," and a "couple of staff" on the football team. All fully vax'd. Team has 90% vax rate. (09.07.2021)
- Vaccine urged amid rise in Minnesota breakthrough infections, Mayo study says - "Breakthrough infections might be a significant part of the latest pandemic wave — with 15,819 coronavirus infections found in fully vaccinated Minnesotans." - This past week = 3,260 fully vax'd cases, 957 hospitalized, 93 deaths. (09.07.2021)
- Hospitalisation among vaccine breakthrough COVID-19 infections (Lancet) - Yale New Haven Health System, between March 23 and July 1, 2021 (i.e. prior to surge in breakthrough cases.) 54 fully vax'd. 7% of whom had mild disease, 20% moderate disease, and 26% had severe or critical illness. (09.07.2021)
- Whatcom County continuing to see more ‘breakthrough’ COVID cases and deaths (WA) - One week, between Aug. 22 and 28, 187 cases (~30% of total). Entire month of July, 95 breakthrough cases. See above 08/19. (09.08.2021)
- Connecticut College makes adjustments amid COVID outbreak - 107 students, 1 staff. No mention of vax status, but Connecticut College does have a vax requirement. (09.09.2021)
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posted on
09/13/2021 7:59:41 PM PDT
by
rxsid
To: bitt; LucyT; null and void; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; Black Agnes; blueyon; ...
Ping!
Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (57% vax w/mild or asymptomatic symptoms)
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:00:11 PM PDT
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: rxsid
Color me shocked that a typical left-wing rag does pretty good "call it right down the middle" reporting here.
Perhaps it's the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" saying...
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:07:29 PM PDT
by
usconservative
(When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
To: rxsid
FDA experts among group opposing US booster shot plan
By LAURAN NEERGAARD and MATTHEW PERRONE
The average person doesn’t need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.
The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.
“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission” at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.
The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.
After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.
Excerpted: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-coronavirus-pandemic-science—38544e89b9dba06d
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:10:13 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
To: rxsid
FDA experts among group opposing US booster shot plan
By LAURAN NEERGAARD and MATTHEW PERRONE
The average person doesn't need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.
The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.
“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.
The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.
After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration's coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.
Excerpted: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-coronavirus-pandemic-science—38544e89b9dba06d
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:11:45 PM PDT
by
Grampa Dave
( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
To: rxsid
These are statistics of the ones that go to the hospital. How many more have mild, or no symptoms that never end up going to a hospital or even a doctor?
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:11:53 PM PDT
by
alternatives?
(The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
To: usconservative
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:13:21 PM PDT
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: alternatives?
Why would you allow yourself to be hospitalized over MILD or ASYMPTOMATIC symptoms?
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:15:25 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
("We the people" needs to be re-read, not reinterpreted.)
To: BipolarBob
I would only go to a hospital if I truly thought I would die otherwise.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:19:05 PM PDT
by
EEGator
To: BipolarBob
My point is these are partial statistics representing the numbers who have gotten Covid AND gone to the hospital. It would be interesting to know how many have gotten Covid.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:19:20 PM PDT
by
alternatives?
(The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
To: BipolarBob
They seem to say people with mild (and moderate) COVID are hospitalized for other reasons such as surgery, etc.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:23:11 PM PDT
by
dodger
To: EEGator
Dying in a hospital doesn’t seem all that appetizing to me. I’d rather die at home.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:26:42 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
("We the people" needs to be re-read, not reinterpreted.)
To: rxsid
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:31:43 PM PDT
by
BozoTexino
(RIP GOP)
To: EEGator
I would only go to a hospital if I truly thought I would die otherwise. Exactly where my husband and I are right now. Came down with covid last week, we are both vaxxed (hubs with Moderna in Feb, me with Pfizer in March) and it's been no more than a rather annoying bad cold/flu. Starting to get taste and smell back in the last day or so.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:34:23 PM PDT
by
Severa
(I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
To: rxsid
Of course, the usual vaxxers will ignore this thread.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:35:27 PM PDT
by
roving
To: rxsid
To: usconservative
I think this is a set up. When the vaccinated start showing up in droves to the hospital, they’ll say admissions aren’t a valid measure of anything.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:36:02 PM PDT
by
GrannyAnn
( )
To: Severa
I have a question: what was the first symptom you noticed?
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:37:24 PM PDT
by
madison10
(I AM the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by Me)
To: rxsid
BTTT!
Thanks (again) the list (and, updates to list).
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:41:45 PM PDT
by
Jane Long
(America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
To: madison10
I have a question: what was the first symptom you noticed? Honestly, I thought it was a sinus infection at first as I'm prone to them. Hubs tested positive on Tues, I started feeling off Wed, the loss of smell/taste even though I could breathe normallly through my nose was my indication it was something different. This weekend sucked, but other than a lingering cough we're already on the mend.
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posted on
09/13/2021 8:42:32 PM PDT
by
Severa
(I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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