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Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (57% vax w/mild or asymptomatic symptoms)
theatlantic.com ^ | 09.13.2021 | David Zweig

Posted on 09/13/2021 7:59:41 PM PDT by rxsid

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning
A new study suggests that almost half of those hospitalized with COVID-19 have mild or asymptomatic cases.

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From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as “the most reliable pandemic number,” ... On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they’re a lagging signal and don’t account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic’s true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today, suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted—and that it has been shifting over time.

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The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021—before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrived—the proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.

This increase was even bigger for vaccinated hospital patients, of whom 57 percent had mild or asymptomatic disease. But unvaccinated patients have also been showing up with less severe symptoms, on average, than earlier in the pandemic: The study found that 45 percent of their cases were mild or asymptomatic since January 21.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


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Reports Of Vaccinated Breakthrough Cases/Hospitalizations/Deaths Are On The Rise - Sharply

A sampling of stories from around the country, and world.

When looking at stories, or data, keep in mind the timeframe. Is the data they are sharing/reporting regarding the entire vaccination timeline (from Dec), when there were far fewer variants and far fewer participating in the experimental injections? Or, is it what's happening recently, in the last month or so with a growing pool of variants and participants in the experiments?

It's becoming clear that whatever effectiveness the injections may have, it wanes over a few short months and is far less effective against the current majority Delta variant. Thus the need for 3 and even 4 injections.

If nothing else, just look at the stories from Whatcom County WA below for the 3 periods of time:
February through June (5 months) = 98 cases,
Month of July alone = 95 cases,
Aug. 22 and 28 week only = 187 cases.

That's a significant, clear uptrend of breakthrough cases, the graph of which would look more like this:

Than this

Or this:

 


1 posted on 09/13/2021 7:59:41 PM PDT by rxsid
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Ping!

Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning (57% vax w/mild or asymptomatic symptoms)

2 posted on 09/13/2021 8:00:11 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
Color me shocked that a typical left-wing rag does pretty good "call it right down the middle" reporting here.

Perhaps it's the "even a broken clock is right twice a day" saying...

3 posted on 09/13/2021 8:07:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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FDA experts among group opposing US booster shot plan
By LAURAN NEERGAARD and MATTHEW PERRONE

The average person doesn’t need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.

The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.

“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission” at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.

The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.

After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration’s coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.

Excerpted: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-coronavirus-pandemic-science—38544e89b9dba06d


4 posted on 09/13/2021 8:10:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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To: rxsid
FDA experts among group opposing US booster shot plan
By LAURAN NEERGAARD and MATTHEW PERRONE

The average person doesn't need a COVID-19 booster yet, an international group of scientists — including two top U.S. regulators — wrote Monday in a scientific journal.

The experts reviewed studies of the vaccines’ performance and concluded the shots are working well despite the extra-contagious delta variant, especially against severe disease.

“Even in populations with fairly high vaccination rates, the unvaccinated are still the major drivers of transmission at this stage of the pandemic, they concluded.

The opinion piece, published in The Lancet, illustrates the intense scientific debate about who needs booster doses and when, a decision the U.S. and other countries are grappling with.

After revelations of political meddling in the Trump administration's coronavirus response, President Joe Biden has promised to “follow the science.” But the review raises the question of whether his administration is moving faster than the experts.

Excerpted: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-health-coronavirus-pandemic-science—38544e89b9dba06d

5 posted on 09/13/2021 8:11:45 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and whatever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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To: rxsid

These are statistics of the ones that go to the hospital. How many more have mild, or no symptoms that never end up going to a hospital or even a doctor?


6 posted on 09/13/2021 8:11:53 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
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To: usconservative

Yup.


7 posted on 09/13/2021 8:13:21 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: alternatives?

Why would you allow yourself to be hospitalized over MILD or ASYMPTOMATIC symptoms?


8 posted on 09/13/2021 8:15:25 PM PDT by BipolarBob ("We the people" needs to be re-read, not reinterpreted.)
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To: BipolarBob

I would only go to a hospital if I truly thought I would die otherwise.


9 posted on 09/13/2021 8:19:05 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: BipolarBob

My point is these are partial statistics representing the numbers who have gotten Covid AND gone to the hospital. It would be interesting to know how many have gotten Covid.


10 posted on 09/13/2021 8:19:20 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders,)
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To: BipolarBob

They seem to say people with mild (and moderate) COVID are hospitalized for other reasons such as surgery, etc.


11 posted on 09/13/2021 8:23:11 PM PDT by dodger
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To: EEGator

Dying in a hospital doesn’t seem all that appetizing to me. I’d rather die at home.


12 posted on 09/13/2021 8:26:42 PM PDT by BipolarBob ("We the people" needs to be re-read, not reinterpreted.)
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To: rxsid

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IC2LQQpieYl6/


13 posted on 09/13/2021 8:31:43 PM PDT by BozoTexino (RIP GOP)
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To: EEGator
I would only go to a hospital if I truly thought I would die otherwise.

Exactly where my husband and I are right now. Came down with covid last week, we are both vaxxed (hubs with Moderna in Feb, me with Pfizer in March) and it's been no more than a rather annoying bad cold/flu. Starting to get taste and smell back in the last day or so.

14 posted on 09/13/2021 8:34:23 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: rxsid

Of course, the usual vaxxers will ignore this thread.


15 posted on 09/13/2021 8:35:27 PM PDT by roving
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To: rxsid

https://www.bitchute.com/video/R3BFk1hM0geF/


16 posted on 09/13/2021 8:35:31 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: usconservative

I think this is a set up. When the vaccinated start showing up in droves to the hospital, they’ll say admissions aren’t a valid measure of anything.


17 posted on 09/13/2021 8:36:02 PM PDT by GrannyAnn ( )
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To: Severa

I have a question: what was the first symptom you noticed?


18 posted on 09/13/2021 8:37:24 PM PDT by madison10 (I AM the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except by Me)
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To: rxsid

BTTT!

Thanks (again) the list (and, updates to list).


19 posted on 09/13/2021 8:41:45 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: madison10
I have a question: what was the first symptom you noticed?

Honestly, I thought it was a sinus infection at first as I'm prone to them. Hubs tested positive on Tues, I started feeling off Wed, the loss of smell/taste even though I could breathe normallly through my nose was my indication it was something different. This weekend sucked, but other than a lingering cough we're already on the mend.

20 posted on 09/13/2021 8:42:32 PM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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