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The Texas Heartbeat Bill Will Protect The Unborn, But Damage Our Justice System
The Federalist ^ | September 8, 2021 | Kyle Sammin

Posted on 09/08/2021 1:33:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/08/2021 1:33:30 PM PDT by Kaslin
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BFD — 80% of the country isn’t working — give them something to do.


2 posted on 09/08/2021 1:36:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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“Texas’s new abortion bill will overrun courts with amateur prosecutors avenging wrongs that have not caused them any particularized harm.”

You mean like lawsuits against gun manufactures or TitleIX insanity? Turnabout is fair play.


3 posted on 09/08/2021 1:36:24 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Kaslin

Boo-hoo, Kyle!!!


4 posted on 09/08/2021 1:39:29 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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Totally different topic, and different state, but Judge Emmett Sullivan took it upon himself to be both prosecutor and judge in the trial against Michael Flynn even though Flynn had caused no particular harm to Sullivan. But I guess that was OK.


5 posted on 09/08/2021 1:41:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. Weaker, a Jr partner good at losing wars.)
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To: Kaslin
But if we destroy an entire justice system in the process, we will have made a society that can protect no one from anything. We would destroy a liberal, democratic system that remains, despite its flaws, the best hope of preserving freedom and justice for all.

How can you preserve freedom and justice for all if they are not alive? The nonsense of preserving a society where the most innocent are not protected is no society at all.

6 posted on 09/08/2021 1:43:01 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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Well, like the Demwits like to say...

“If it saves just one child’s life, it’s worth it.”


7 posted on 09/08/2021 1:46:28 PM PDT by moovova (Joe Biden...Making the Taliban great again!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
General Flynn made the mistake of speaking his mind openly during the Afghan and Iraq wars. The war hawks in the CIA and State Department never forget. Entire careers of lavish lifestyle are made in endless military quagmires designed to launder money and build power.

Trump picking Flynn sent the message that Trump was of the same thinking. Flynn could not go unpunished and without ruin.

8 posted on 09/08/2021 1:48:52 PM PDT by blackdog (Sophisticated so public policy is not applicable. )
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To: frogjerk

Never mind that we are supposed to be a republic, not “a liberal, democratic system”.


9 posted on 09/08/2021 1:49:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Kaslin

If the Supreme Court Creates Law out of thin air it is good, but if the Legislature and Governor Create Law the Old Fashioned Way, by Debate and Vote, then it is Bad??

Somebody help me out


10 posted on 09/08/2021 1:51:33 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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“this would outsource law enforcement to the public at large.”

Relax, Kyle. Now people in Texas have a right to complain to the police about abortions. Abortion is a cruddy, evil and messy procedure that people should complain about.


11 posted on 09/08/2021 1:53:20 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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“But that is what a system of laws requires: that even those accused of the most hideous crimes deserve a fair trial”

It’s a shame dead babies cannot testify at that “fair trial” but who knows maybe they will get a chance to testify during the trials at judgement day.


12 posted on 09/08/2021 2:06:47 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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Kyle Sammin is a young lawyer. The thesis of this writing of his is that our court system can be significantly damaged by something. As someone who has hired lawyers in dozens of civil litigation matters and paid out 7 figure legal fees over 40 years, this thesis of his in this writing is a joke and I could write a thousand page, War and Peace novel proving it. But, I won’t.

I will say that he misses the point of this law. # 1 it’s objective is to deter baby killers and their helpers using fees and process and MAJOR hassle! # 2, ....few experienced and good trial lawyers will get involved in a case for a chance of splitting a $10,000.00 reward with his client. Indeed, he won’t even return your call. So, yes there will be some lawsuits but NO this fact will not damage the court system that barely functions anyway.


13 posted on 09/08/2021 2:08:33 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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As if anyone of sentient ability has any trust in the Just-Us (Us = leftists) system.


14 posted on 09/08/2021 2:11:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Dude, the Marquess of Queensberry left the building. We’re down to survival of the toughest now.


15 posted on 09/08/2021 2:20:23 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Seruzawa
Turnabout is fair play.

The problem is it leads to chaos and the destruction of society.

Which is exactly what our enemies desire.

You are correct about leftists using these tactics. Consider the EPA and the Endangered Species Act, which have empowered activists to file lawsuits for decades, and done away with private property rights in the process.

16 posted on 09/08/2021 2:24:38 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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Unfortunately NOT fighting back is guaranteeing the chaos and destruction of society. I’d rather go down fighting than knuckle under to these leftwing criminal filth.


17 posted on 09/08/2021 2:27:14 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Unfortunately NOT fighting back is guaranteeing the chaos and destruction of society.

We have not been fighting back for a long time.

Let us hope, that in fighting back, we manage to restore Constitutional checks and balances.

You are correct: not fighting back, we lose. Fighting back, we take risks.

We are forced to take major risks to win.

18 posted on 09/08/2021 2:29:42 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: Kaslin

SCOTUS WILL invalidate the law.

Prior rulings have set precedents against the idea of the law, because the person suing cannot show themselves to be an aggrieved or injured party in the action - the plaintiff, SCOTUS will say, “does not have standing”, because they won’t have a court order appointing them as a guardian ad litem of the fetus.


19 posted on 09/08/2021 2:31:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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“SCOTUS WILL invalidate the law...”

Sounds reasonable

I’ve never figured out how the lawsuit could be implemented in the real world.


20 posted on 09/08/2021 2:47:46 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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