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1 posted on 09/06/2021 9:20:56 AM PDT by elpadre
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“Afghan debacle cedes Eurasia to the dragon and the bear”

Uh, it was already theirs.

Certainly no sane American thinks we have a dog in that hunt.


2 posted on 09/06/2021 9:24:55 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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“...And it reads America’s helter-skelter departure from Afghanistan as a sign of imperial senescence.

I doubt that Secretary Pompeo had any plans to incubate Uighur terrorists as a weapon against the Chinese regime; the ETIM affair probably constituted no more than a Parthian shot at Beijing by an official of a lame-duck administration with future political ambitions.

But that is not how Beijing read the matter. Chinese analysts read the Defense Intelligence Agency’s 2012 report warning that American support for Sunni jihadists would foster the new Caliphate movement that turned into ISIS.

As noted, they tracked jihadists from General Petraeus’ “Sunni Awakening” into their own counter-terror sphere. They watched Pompeo arrange for the release of 5,000 Taliban militants as part of the peace negotiations that preceded the Biden rout.

With its richly financed Belt and Road Initiative, China had already seized the diplomatic high ground in Central Asia – likely to the discomfort of Russia, formerly the dominant power among the former republics of the defunct Soviet Union.

Now Russia and China will set aside their differences and the dragon and bear will bestride Eurasia like twin colossi. That is the alliance that Richard Nixon set out to prevent in 1972, and it is now hard upon us. ...”


3 posted on 09/06/2021 9:25:32 AM PDT by elpadre ( )
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China did not influence Vietnam. They have been mortal enemies for ages. The Vietnamese were allied with The USSR not China.

China benefits because they will get to mine the REM in the mountains. I cannot imagine there is much love between Russia and the Taliban.

And really, the only reason we gave a shit about Afghanistan is it allowed us to listen to Russia, China, and mostly Iran. And since we are kissing all of their collective asses these days, there is no reason to stay.

Remember, 10% for the big guy.


7 posted on 09/06/2021 9:33:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: elpadre; Liz; SunkenCiv
The defeat of an American proxy regime by Taliban irregulars marks the first victory for a jihadist army against Western military forces since the annihilation of a British expeditionary force in Afghanistan in 1842. It will serve as a rallying point for jihadists in Russia, China, Central Asia and the Middle East. America’s display of casual disinterest in the region, to the point of abandoning significant numbers of its own citizens behind enemy lines and very large numbers of its allies, has persuaded all the region’s players that America is enervated and feeble.

Biden's not smart enough to be this stupid...

Plus we were 'warned' several times (without asking) that Biden made horrible foreign policy decisions. That was odd.

But this Afghan withdrawal isn't just 'horrible' it's inspired. Inspired horrible...does more to knock us off the world stage than any simple 'mistake'...

Obama's people are pulling the strings... and Biden's 'calls for help' - "I've been told not to take questions" throws water on this horror being a casual stupid bumbling old man 'mistake'... Israel is moving to the China/Russia power positions in hopes of THEM controlling Iran. That's just the beginning.

Biden's NOT smart enough to do this without help... Biden didn't get the first invite to Obama's party - and either did Chicago and National democrats like Axelrod who 'made' Obama. That's a red flag.

14 posted on 09/06/2021 9:57:19 AM PDT by GOPJ ($85 billion worth of weapons in Afghanistan for 2,500 American troops? Something's rotten in Denmar)
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I’ve said for decades the US needed to team up with Russia before Russia teamed up with China against us.


15 posted on 09/06/2021 9:59:53 AM PDT by bgill (.Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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...as Western Europe and North America sink deeper and deeper into the quagmire of decadence!


19 posted on 09/06/2021 10:12:44 AM PDT by Savage Beast (“The soul…is ever contented. The…ego...is never satisfied.”--Paramahansa Yogananda)
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Rare earths used for computer chips and batteries for EV are in abundance in Afghanistan.

Muslims hold them as 'hostage' to temp more civilized countries to try to 'influence' them with capital, providing ample targets for the Mujahideen to practice on.

21 posted on 09/06/2021 10:16:22 AM PDT by RideForever (One of the Control Group of the CoVID genetic experiment)
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China and Russia set to cement alliance with US withdrawal and existential common threat of jihad on their frontiers
***Crappy headline writing


22 posted on 09/06/2021 10:23:43 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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23 posted on 09/06/2021 10:25:05 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2 (Widespread belief in asymptomatic spread of a low-risk virus hastened the end of the West by 100 yrs)
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China and Russia have no choice but to step in. If they do not excise the jihadist cancer today, it might metastasize into something uncontrollable......

Because Russia did such a bang-up job when they were in Afghanistan? Regardless, let China take a crack at it. That should be entertaining.

24 posted on 09/06/2021 10:27:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Let Russia and China fight the neighboring Muslim plague on their own. China seems to be doing a good job with the Uighurs.


26 posted on 09/06/2021 10:57:05 AM PDT by WMarshal ("Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.")
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Which of these countries, or is it both both, that have been supplying the Taliban with arms, since 2001?


30 posted on 09/06/2021 1:36:36 PM PDT by Yulee
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So first things first - while they are playing nice right now, the Russians and the Chinese are historic rivals. While Russian hegemoney over northeastern Asia is unchallenged for now, eventually China will be looking north with envious eyes.


31 posted on 09/06/2021 2:49:33 PM PDT by proud_dad_of_two (Formerly MikefromOhio (I couldn't remember my password and lost the email account too!))
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Commie Xi Jinping and Commie Vladimir Putin are happy that the US got knocked down a few notches.


35 posted on 09/06/2021 6:22:49 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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Rd later.


37 posted on 09/07/2021 4:42:39 AM PDT by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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Democrats actually thought that if they caused the American “Defeats” in VN and Afghanistan that Communists in China and the Socialist-Commies in Russia would welcome them and political leadership in the “ISM Club” as co-rulers of the world. Instead the DNC is finding out that they are neither welcomed or trusted in International Circles... and now they are “left” to face the electorate in future elections - maybe they won’t be tried for crimes on the books because of their political positions over the law enforcement, but that too could change with a stupid call by Biden/Harris for Martial Law and find themselves actually overthrown by the military with the support of flyover country.

Everyone can have that wet dream where America is saved given the current circumstances.


43 posted on 09/07/2021 7:00:19 PM PDT by Jumper
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