Posted on 09/04/2021 7:53:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
“… has been sentenced for assault on several occasions.”…
What in blazes does this have to do with him pointing out some facts concerning Covid vaccines in Finland, including the deaths and adverse reactions to the vaccines.
Bingo!
It has nothing to do with the facts the Finn MP talked about. Jamestown is deflecting and projecting. He's using the standard leftist tactics most of us have battled for years. He wants us to present evidence like this is a court of law and he is the Judge and Jury. Don't be goaded by this troll. Ignore him. If he wants evidence it's all over FR and the Internet in general. He can get his lazy butt in gear to find it himself.
Well played.
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Thank you for that very important post, Jane!
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Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of confirmed and provisional Delta cases in England by vaccination status
(1 February 2021 to 2 August 2021)
| Variant | Age group (years)** | Total | Cases with specimen date in past 28 days | Unlinked | <21 days post dose 1 | ≥21 days post dose 1 | Received 2 doses | Unvaccinated |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Delta cases | <50 | 265,749 | 84,772 | 28,330 | 23,822 | 40,449 | 25,536 | 147,612 |
| >=50 | 33,736 | 13,803 | 2,989 | 195 | 5,640 | 21,472 | 3,440 | |
| All cases | 300,010 | 98,722 | 31,841 | 24,018 | 46,089 | 47,008 | 151,054 | |
| Cases with an emergency care visit§ (exclusion‡) | <50 | 8,449 | N/A | 70 | 756 | 1,127 | 694 | 5,802 |
| >=50 | 1,940 | N/A | 10 | 15 | 326 | 1,098 | 491 | |
| All cases | 10,391 | N/A | 82 | 771 | 1,453 | 1,792 | 6,293 | |
| Cases with an emergency care visit§ (inclusion#) | <50 | 10,975 | N/A | 119 | 953 | 1,368 | 864 | 7,671 |
| >=50 | 3,342 | N/A | 24 | 30 | 486 | 1,815 | 987 | |
| All cases | 14,319 | N/A | 145 | 983 | 1,854 | 2,679 | 8,658 | |
| Cases where presentation to emergency care resulted in overnight inpatient admission§ ((exclusion‡) | <50 | 1,970 | N/A | 35 | 136 | 203 | 153 | 1,443 |
| >=50 | 1,059 | N/A | 7 | 12 | 125 | 620 | 295 | |
| All cases | 3,030 | N/A | 43 | 148 | 328 | 773 | 1,738 | |
| Cases where presentation to emergency care resulted in overnight inpatient admission§ (inclusion#) | <50 | 3,084 | N/A | 61 | 211 | 298 | 224 | 2,290 |
| >=50 | 2,074 | N/A | 20 | 23 | 230 | 1,131 | 670 | |
| All cases | 5,159 | N/A | 82 | 234 | 528 | 1,355 | 2,960 | |
| Deaths within 28 days of positive specimen date | <50 | 71 | N/A | 2 | 4 | 4 | 13 | 48 |
| >=50 | 670 | N/A | 5 | 6 | 65 | 389 | 205 |
From your link:
For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.
In the first group of vaccinated people there were a total of 402 deaths, and in the second much larger group of unvaccinated people there were 253 deaths. To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.
That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference.
The facts from the table
No it is not amazing. It misleading because there are so many more cases in younger unvaccinated (and healthy) people and that skews the numbers.. In the less than 50 age group, deaths in vaccinated are 13 out of 25,536 or 0.05%. Deaths in unvaccinated are 48 out of 147,612 or 0.03%. In the 50 or over age group deaths are 389 out of 21,472 vaccinated or 1.8%, and 205 out of 3,440 unvaccinated or 6%
What it says is pretty simple, and matches what many people have said here, including me, for many months. If you are older you will greatly cut your risk of dying from COVID by getting vaccinated (from 6% to 1.8% in delta in the UK). If you are younger and healthier, then getting vaccinated can actually raise your risk of dying, probably due to ADE, from 0.03% unvaccinated to 0.05% vaccinated. That is why it needs to be an individual decision based on that individual's risk of getting and spreading COVID.
Since I made those statements many months ago, I now understand that with Delta, vaccinated people have just as high a viral load as unvaccinated. So now I have to modify that statement and add that a vaccinated person needs to be just as careful to not get COVID as unvaccinated. That mostly means staying out of long duration indoor crowded situations.
These shots are risky, regardless of age.
We CAN agree that there is NO reason for younger people/children to ever take these experimental shots, though.
More info, from UK....
....What this also shows is that that the risk of death, if infected or hospitalised with Covid-19, is much higher among the fully vaccinated population when the risk of death for the fully vaccinated is supposed to be reduced by 95% compared to the unvaccinated population.
In the most recent four weeks 0.1% of confirmed cases among the unvaccinated population have resulted in death, whilst 0.33% of confirmed cases among the fully vaccinated population have resulted in death. Therefore, according to Public Health Scotland’s own data, the risk of death if infected with Covid-19 is 3.3 times / 230% higher if fully vaccinated compared to being unvaccinated.
The data also shows that 6.5% of hospitalisations among the unvaccinated population have resulted in death, whilst 14% of hospitalisations among the fully vaccinated population have resulted in death. Therefore, the risk of death if hospitalised with Covid-19 is 2.15 times / 115% higher if fully vaccinated compared to being unvaccinated.
If the Covid-19 injections were working then we should be seeing the majority of hospitalisations and deaths among the unvaccinated population because they account for the majority of confirmed cases. But the Public Health Scotland data isn’t just showing us that they’re not working, it’s also showing us that the Covid-19 injections seem to be making people who are infected with Covid-19 worse.
And....
The U.K. Governments report (which you can find here) has collated data inputted up to the 25th August via the MHRA Yellow Card Scheme. Our earliest analysis of the data which we brought you back at the beginning of February showed that there had been 49,472 adverse reactions to the Pfizer vaccine, and 21,032 adverse reactions to the Oxford vaccine up to the 24th January 2021, with a rate of 1 in every 333 people receiving the jab suffering a serious adverse reaction.
Since then the number of reported adverse reactions to the Pfizer vaccine has increased to 309,612 as of the 25th August. The AstraZeneca jab has fared much worse though, with the total number of adverse reactions now standing at 819,007. There have also been 46,244 adverse reactions to the Moderna jab of which 2.2 million doses have been administered, and 3,226 adverse reactions reported where the brand of vaccine was not specified.
According to the MHRA the current rate of people suffering a serious adverse reaction after having one of the experimental Covid vaccines stands at 1 in every 142 people, with 1,178,089 adverse reactions having now been reported to the MHRA Yellow Card scheme.
However, as of the 25th August 47.8 million people had allegedly received at least one dose of a Covid-19 injection in the UK, therefore an adverse reaction has been suffered for every 40 people who have been vaccinated.
But it’s important to remember that this rate only accounts for the adverse reactions that are actually reported, which is estimated to be around only 10% by the MHRA themselves, meaning the actual rate of adverse reactions occurring is frighteningly higher....
(Breakdowns, by adverse effect, at link.)
...In all there have been 236,355 nervous system disorders reported to the MHRA as adverse reactions to all three emergency approved injections, with 54,154being reported against the Pfizer jab, 174,416 being reported against the AstraZeneca jab, 7,173 being reported against the Moderna jab, and 612 being reported where the brand of vaccine was not specified. These include reactions such as the strokes listed above, brain damage, seizure, and paralysis.
As of the 25th August there have been 309,612 adverse reactions and 509 deaths reported to the MHRA against the Pfizer mRNA injection.
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...The Moderna mRNA injection meanwhile has caused at least 46,244 adverse reactions and 15 deaths as of the 25th August 2021. This vaccine has also mainly been administered to younger adults who are least at risk of suffering debilitating disease if infected with Covid-19.
Around 1.4 million people have received the Moderna jab which means at least 1 in every 30 people have suffered and adverse reaction and at least 1 in every 93,000 people have sadly died.
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As usual, you show up like a democrat smear merchant to attack anyone who has an opinion that differs from you.
Frankly, you are disgusting. What are your credentials?
Snake oil makers need snake oil pushers
Are they comparing the same demographic? Or are they comparing old vaccinated cases with young unvaccinated cases?
The data also shows that 6.5% of hospitalisations among the unvaccinated population have resulted in death, whilst 14% of hospitalisations among the fully vaccinated population have resulted in death. Therefore, the risk of death if hospitalised with Covid-19 is 2.15 times / 115% higher if fully vaccinated compared to being unvaccinated.
Same demographics? Or different, not comparable?
(Breakdowns, by adverse effect, at link.)
I don't see a comparison to the expected values of those reactions. How many heart attacks are expected in the same number of unvaccinated people?
You don’t think it’s important to know something abut the actual sources of information?
Or do you just believe anything you happen to agree with, no matter where it comes from?
It suggests to me that he’s probably emotionally out of control. I don’t automatically take advice from people in that state.
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