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A critique of three Republican arguments to have stayed in Afghanistan
American Thinker ^ | 09/02/2021 | Steve Whitson

Posted on 09/02/2021 9:46:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The withdrawal from Afghanistan has reinvigorated the discussion among conservatives over the Republican Party's foreign policy strategy. Some Republicans have laid the blame for the fall of Afghanistan on the shoulders of libertine isolationists like Senator Rand Paul.

They claim the "endless wars" slogan is an emotional argument and that proponents are culpable for the repercussions of the hasty withdrawal from Afghanistan. On the other hand, Isolationists claim that neoconservative Republicans' support of indefinite forward-deployed military operations amounts to nation-building. Republicans traditionally support "peace through strength," but defining that and the parameters for deterrence of aggression is still under considerable debate.

The Republican base was clamoring for a foreign policy that puts America first and brings the troops home even before the 2016 presidential election. President Trump was elected based partly on his ability to listen to the Republican base. While he promised to get America out of endless wars, many elected conservatives are now advocating for an indefinite war on terror.

Their firm belief is that the U.S. never should have withdrawn from Afghanistan. But looking closer at the pro–indefinite war arguments shows that they are not as sound as their advocates claim.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; republicans
Here are the three arguments against Withdrawal from Afghanistan ( read the article for the details ):

The U.S. force consisted of only 2,500 soldiers, and no Americans died.

The U.S. should secure a forward operating base to counter regional terrorist threats.

Now that the U.S. is leaving, China will swoop in and secure $1 trillion in natural resources like rare earth


1 posted on 09/02/2021 9:46:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Last one is nonsense

1st two are accurate. Like Obama and Iraq in 2011 there is a way to withdrawal without this absolutely disaster.

Virtually anything would of been better then what Biden did


2 posted on 09/02/2021 9:59:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

The last one is not nonsense. China is already making promises to the Taliban, and a Taliban spokesman already said that China is their greatest trading partner.

We should have kept that base and kept supplying the ANA with intel and air support. Was costing us very little under Trump’s ROE.


3 posted on 09/02/2021 10:24:53 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any further involvement in Afghanistan must have four requisite conditions met.

1) The dozen or so mountain passes to Pakistan will be closed and totally under US control.

2) The US will govern Afghanistan, and will train Afghans to be leaders for years, with western standards, before slowly integrating them in apprenticeships in government roles.

3) All orphans will be cared for and educated to western standards in boarding schools near Kabul.

4) All Afghan citizens will be issued picture IDs with their encrypted dot matrix biometric information on the back. Anyone detained without their ID will be held until their identity can be established. They will need their ID to obtain rations, fuel, to vote, etc.


4 posted on 09/02/2021 10:31:12 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Do kids in Iceland still play "The Floor Is Lava?")
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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans failed to understand the essential interest of the US, which is deterrence, because they had a complex host of other agendae - support the MIC, spread democracy, WAR! - of course the democrats missed the whole point too.


5 posted on 09/02/2021 10:31:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: wbarmy
...The last one is not nonsense. China is already making promises to the Taliban, and a Taliban spokesman already said that China is their greatest trading partner....

The writer's point that US didn't seize the mineral assets so the Chinese won't either is quite the stretch.

6 posted on 09/02/2021 10:40:49 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: SeekAndFind

Great summary. Also very true...


7 posted on 09/02/2021 10:43:08 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Dems: We cheated fair and square!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here are the three arguments against Withdrawal from Afghanistan

Just understand that the article is a rebuttal of these arguments, not a defense of them.

-PJ

8 posted on 09/02/2021 10:52:00 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: SeekAndFind

What is this worship of China as if it is a superior nation that will succeed in Afghanistan where everyone else has failed? Too many China toadies on this site.


9 posted on 09/02/2021 10:53:42 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: SeekAndFind

The last one is bogus. 20 years ago there were no western governments mandating electric cars. Now there are.


10 posted on 09/02/2021 11:41:57 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give it a few days and the Americans left behind in Afghanistan will be abandoned and forgotten.


11 posted on 09/02/2021 12:23:30 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I understand, there were two airbases that could land the big planes and could be easily defended. They should have kept both, just like Gitmo. They could have paid the government, which should and would have still been in place. Biden PURPOSELY gave up the equipment and the country. Like Obama he wants the worldwide Kalifa to sweep the world. It serves the purpose of their master, Lucifer.


12 posted on 09/02/2021 8:31:18 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

No, no, no, and Hell no.

L


13 posted on 09/02/2021 8:35:30 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: MNJohnnie
The third one is the only one that makes any sense -- and even that one is specious at best.

The first one is ludicrous because the U.S. has no business occupying a foreign country that has no real government that can negotiate terms on behalf of a sovereign nation.

The second one is related to that. It's silly to establish a "forward operating base" as a hostile force without doing one of the following: (1) annex the area where the base is located and treat it as sovereign U.S. territory; or (2) operate the way we do in other countries, with the full approval and cooperation of that country's government.

14 posted on 09/03/2021 5:38:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: Glad2bnuts

I’m on board with the airbase concept in principle, but I don’t think it’s a simple matter in this particular case. My understanding is that Bagram was abandoned by the U.S. because it’s 25 miles from Kabul and the U.S. military simply couldn’t defend the base and maintain safe travel routes to and from the city with such a small force.


15 posted on 09/03/2021 5:40:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest, ‘til a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Good article, thanks for posting.


16 posted on 09/03/2021 5:41:32 AM PDT by Fury
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