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Maybe if the trillions that went to the COVID stimulus checks and the so called infrastructure plan and instead to Social Security this would not be happening. If the public employee pension plans were to go bust all hell would break loose.
1 posted on 09/01/2021 6:17:41 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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>>Maybe if the trillions that went to the COVID stimulus checks and the so called infrastructure plan and instead to Social Security this would not be happening. If the public employee pension plans were to go bust all hell would break loose.<<

I have spent my entire working life assuming there will be no SS available. FRA for me is a few years down the line but I think I will take it the moment I am eligible. I will just be using it for trips and stuff like that. But I paid in and I want what I was promised - or at least as much as I can.


2 posted on 09/01/2021 6:23:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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3 posted on 09/01/2021 6:26:07 AM PDT by LouAvul (Lying headlines from fake news articles written by imposters masquerading as journalists.)
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SS has been “going broke” for decades. The fact is it will always be with us and retirees will always get their checks for the simple reason it is political suicide to reduce payments in any way and for any reason.

The only change I believe will benefit both the program and the retiree is to allow (voluntary) investment of SS taxes collected into a selected portfolio of Stocks (mutual funds), Bonds (US Gov, Corporate also in the form of Mutual Funds) and MM funds).


4 posted on 09/01/2021 6:26:12 AM PDT by billyboy15
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I remember that Gen X was polled to see what we thought more likely, that UFOs are real, or that Social Security would still exist when we retired. UFOs won.


5 posted on 09/01/2021 6:26:13 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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How many receive benefits that never paid into the system? Like illegal immigrants and refuges?


6 posted on 09/01/2021 6:28:46 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
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SS is real power for the political class. They use it to threaten, they use it to shore up power, but they will never, ever fix it. If they fixed it, they couldn’t use it as a club when they needed it.


7 posted on 09/01/2021 6:30:16 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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I have a pension from the teachers’ retirement system in California - my family told me when I was in my 20’s that the system was no good, not to trust it and to diversify, diversify, diversify.

I’ve been warning colleagues about this for years - deaf ears, to say the least. Now they are at the mercy of a system that is going broke - or already broke. Some cashed in their 403b’s early - stupidly and foolishly - and don’t even have that. My agent told me this is a huge huge problem (they needed to buy a car, renovate their home, wanted the cash or something else just as foolish).

I now enjoy a comfortable retirement - if my pension goes (and I suspect it will given the affairs of this state) - at least I have other sources of income I can (hopefully) depend on.


8 posted on 09/01/2021 6:31:38 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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There was NO REASON for COVID stimulus money to have been sent to SS recipients. Their income was not impacted by lockdown. The money sent to SS recipients should be reclaimed and put into the "SS Trust Fund" (or whatever you want to all it)
9 posted on 09/01/2021 6:33:08 AM PDT by Roccus (Prima di ogni altra cosa, siati armati!)
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Social Security will be unable to pay full benefits ...

And, uh, just how long have conservatives been warning against this?

11 posted on 09/01/2021 6:38:52 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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Before that happens, eliminate the “crazy checks” that are sent to certain members of society as a pre-payment for reparations. Also, define what you want “permanent disability” to mean. Millions are getting this money and are perfectly able to work at some job.


12 posted on 09/01/2021 6:39:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Trump: Make America Great Again. biden: Make Taliban Great Again. (Click on my user name))
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Everything will be fine once the Biden/Harris administration seizes everyone’s 401K.


13 posted on 09/01/2021 6:39:32 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Joe Biden takes the "em" out of empathetic)
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Hey, DC Dumbass! Look back at the original law: You weren’t supposed to be spending the SS funds on anything BUT SS payments. You’re so busy spending to get yourself reelected, you forgot who put you in office. When that stopped working, you passed new laws to make it easier to create fake voters. Time for us to kick your ass to the curb!


14 posted on 09/01/2021 6:40:43 AM PDT by econjack
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Of course Barry’s Obamacare czar, still on the scene, says nobody should live beyond 75. Just nudge retirement up a couple of years and the state will have the perfect SS solvency scenario!


15 posted on 09/01/2021 6:41:19 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Probably would never have been an issue if there were 70,000,000 more Americans instead of Marge Sangers Planned Parenthood eugenics. Seventy million more working. Instead America imports illegals for virtue signaling.


16 posted on 09/01/2021 6:43:04 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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Commie thugs hate older white voters...


17 posted on 09/01/2021 6:43:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (DC white trash 'elites' desire a permanent ruling class held up by a violent angry black underclass)
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Blame it on the pandemic or climate change, but don’t dare blame it on poor governmental policies.


19 posted on 09/01/2021 6:44:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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All the articles I see regarding when to retire and take SS benefits suggest waiting until later to get increased benefits. I haven’t seen one yet that acknowledges the elephant in the room, the upcoming insolvency of the system and the almost certainty of reduced benefits.


21 posted on 09/01/2021 6:50:57 AM PDT by PTBAA
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Never any talk of reducing welfare or foreign aid.


24 posted on 09/01/2021 6:54:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Unlike all other social program, Social security is an Earned benefits. People actually spend money to earn benefits!
And the benefits are not really that big. If you take a liberal mantra that $15 is the minimum living wage, (<=> $30,000/year) then almost all social security recipients live below living minimum. (SS average is below $20,000/year).
In Europe, the SS equivalent is a lot larger compared to average/minimum income. It bankrupts the European states, but it is.
What I want to say, that there are 1000’s of programs which deserve cutting before anybody should touch SS!


26 posted on 09/01/2021 7:37:15 AM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHGreco RomNQkryIIs)
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List of illegals with Social Security and Medicare still missing.


31 posted on 09/01/2021 8:09:42 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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