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To: noiseman; All

> I’d like to see those folks try to dismissively sweep this study aside. This sounds solid, and should result in the immediate cessation of the forced “vaccination” program.

The study seems legit but this article completely misrepresents the results of the study. Here is a description of the study from the Francis Crick institute:

https://www.crick.ac.uk/news/2021-06-03_pfizer-biontech-vaccine-recipients-have-lower-antibody-levels-targeting-the-delta-variant-first-discovered-in-india

There is no mention whatsoever about the destruction of T cells or other such nonsense. The main point of the study is that vaccinated people have about 5 times less neutralizing antibodies against the delta variant compared to the original variant. That’s it. Here’s a key quote:

“They found that in people who had been fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, levels of neutralising antibodies were more than five times lower* against the B.1.617.2 variant when compared to the original strain, upon which current vaccines are based.

“Importantly, this antibody response was even lower in people who had only received one dose. After a single dose of Pfizer-BioNTech, 79% of people had a quantifiable neutralising antibody response against the original strain, but this fell to 50% for B.1.1.7, 32% for B.1.617.2 and 25% for B.1.351.”

Alternative news media are quoting, David Bauer, the lead scientist of this studyout of context in order to mislead people into believing that vaccinated people have 5 times less neutralizing antibodies versus unvaccinated people. That is just a flat out lie. There was no comparison with unvaccinated people. That was not the point of the study. The comparison was between 1) the amount of neutralizing antibodies against the original strain in vaccinated people versus, 2) the amount of neutralizing antibodies against the delta variant.


30 posted on 08/22/2021 9:42:32 PM PDT by Qilin
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To: Qilin

I see you found the actual study as well.

The headline appears to be a complete fabrication. But it fits the narrative, so the lies will be celebrated by the usual crowd.


33 posted on 08/22/2021 9:45:40 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Qilin

So, can the vax be modified to get the levels back up, and should we anticipate additional side effects from 1) compounded vaxes (3 injections), and 2) the revised behavior?


41 posted on 08/22/2021 9:51:44 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Qilin

Re: 30 - I see you posted the link to the study. Thanks!


43 posted on 08/22/2021 9:51:59 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Qilin; NoLibZone

After initially reading the study, I don’t see anywhere in the study that notes or otherwise shows that T cells are damaged or destroyed.

Wait, now I understand what happened.

The article linked to by the OP links to an article at Natural News titled “Pfizer vaccine destroys T cells, weakens the immune system – study”
- see https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-22-study-pfizer-vaccine-destroys-t-cells-weakens-immune-system.html

The Natural News article links to an article at Infowars titled “Studies Confirm COVID Injections Destroy T-Cells, Immune System”
- see https://www.infowars.com/posts/studies-confirm-covid-injections-destroy-t-cells-immune-system/

The Infowars article notes “Alex Jones breaks down the studies that confirm the COVID injection destroys T-Cells and weakens the immune system.”

Okay, got it now.


56 posted on 08/22/2021 10:18:54 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Qilin

Thank you for linking the original study. I was trying to figure out how the article was able to say T Cells were being destroyed. There was a link to a video, but I can’t listen to that right now.

The link you provided (the Watson &Crick paper) is much more clear than the article.


87 posted on 08/23/2021 12:10:10 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Qilin

Thank you! Even when I watched the video of the OP I was like...no, no...that is not what he is saying at all. He was explaining that the shot wanes in effectiveness.


100 posted on 08/23/2021 3:58:35 AM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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