Posted on 08/21/2021 5:15:17 AM PDT by bert
“They believed it because they had to; they couldn’t bring themselves to admit that this might not be real, it was just a sham,” said Graham Platner, who served in Iraq and then Afghanistan as a US soldier, and later as a security contractor. “Military officers are not trained to admit that maybe we can’t do this.”
In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, Platner reveals the deeply troubling levels of corruption, waste and myths that underpinned the US role in Afghanistan, and explains why the country fell to the Taliban in just a few days.
The Taliban captured their first provincial capital of Zaranj on August 7, and by August 15 they were in Kabul after President Ashraf Ghani had fled the country. US forces had left Bagram Air Base in early July, roughly a month before the Taliban offensive gained momentum and swept over the country.
Platner came to Afghanistan with high hopes in 2010. He’d been in Iraq, and would ultimately serve for eight years with the US Infantry. He came to Afghanistan with the surge of US troops that was supposed to turn around a war that had already dragged on for a decade.
“My unit was deployed in November 2010 as part of the Obama surge to move troops into the country to conduct counter-insurgency the right way,” he said. “I believed it before I left.” Platner had seen mistakes in Iraq, and believed that Gen. David Petraeus, commander of the International Security Assistance Forces, and Gen. Stanley McChrystal, his predecessor, were saying the right things about Afghanistan.
McChrystal said “that we would now drive on the road like we are part of the Afghans, and walk more and get out of our trucks,” remembers Platner. “And as an infantry sergeant who believed counter-insurgency could work, I wanted to do this, and I was excited to go and fight in an army that was going to take seriously this strategy that I had fully bought into.”
Then he saw how things really were. While the generals said the right things and lower-level US officers believed it and tried to get it done, “everyone in between doesn’t want to do any of this.” He sketches a pattern of officers being asked to quantify their successes through the number of missions and number of engagements carried out meeting Afghans. As officers wanted promotions, they were incentivized to put in big numbers, but not necessarily accomplish anything real on the ground.
“How do you quantify making Afghans happy?” Platner asks. “It is immeasurable and you need metrics, like killing this many enemy, and spending this much money, and this many combat patrols. It doesn’t matter what you did.”
WHILE THE US Army sought to get good “stats” on what was happening to pass up the chain of command, the Afghan army and police were largely an army only on paper. In northeast Afghanistan, where Platner was a rifle squad leader, he spent most of his time living with Afghan National Police, who were supposed to be performing paramilitary operations as well. The Afghan army in his area was being advised by the French Foreign Legion. He says this was in the Ghorband District not far from Kabul.
While the US brigade moved around a bit, his role in training Afghan police provided an insight into the failures across Afghanistan at the time. “We were pretending that we were preparing them to do this on their own,” recalls Platner. “But since they were utterly incapable of doing it on their own, we were going on combat patrols and dragging along some Afghan cops to pretend they were doing a mission. So we operated basically as a US rifle company.” This meant that the “advise and assist” nature of what the US thought it was doing, or the “by, with and through” approach the US would take later in Iraq after 2014, was largely a myth because the local units wouldn’t lead the way. It was a “delusion,” Platner says. “We had two platoon interpreters.”
Most of the Afghan security forces came from minority communities such as Uzbeks, Tajiks and Hazzara Shi’ites, and they owed their place in the units to the old Northern Alliance that had resisted the Taliban and which had swept to power with US support in late 2001 and early 2002. While reports say the Afghan army was supposed to be 45% Pashtun – the majority group in Afghanistan that has also made up the backbone of Taliban fighters – the reality was that he thinks it never exceeded a few percent Pashtun.
Platner says that in his district, the US company, squad and brigade commanders had their own notions of what a successful deployment meant in terms of their resume, “so they could say they oversaw a battalion that did this many patrols and spent this much on reconstruction and did this to the enemy. So what we were doing was taking orders from the military structure that was to operate as a counter-insurgency structure and engage the enemy and shoe-horn the Afghan component into it.”
The result was that the local Afghans who were supposed to be leading operations had no appetite for any combat missions. “They didn’t want to do anything, except steal from people,” he says. This harsh statement is backed up by his experience dealing with the underpaid police.
“In the summer of 2011 at the height of the fighting season, the Afghan police I was advising had two magazines per man, and the entire district had one RPG round, one round for their one RPG tube, and they had no gas for their Ford Rangers we had bought them.” This dismal state of affairs was exacerbated by their paychecks and cash for basic things being stolen by higher-level Afghan commanders. He also says the police would put people in jail to get ransom from local families to raise money.
“They did that because they weren’t getting paid.”
PLATNER DESCRIBES the process at the time as “Afghanistanization,” a term borrowed and adapted from the US experience in Vietnam when the US tried to turn over sectors to the local Vietnamese ARVN forces in preparation for leaving. The concept was to put “Afghans in the lead and weaning them from the American logistic teat.” That meant the US infantry couldn’t give their partner forces ammunition or gas . “Everyone knew the reason they didn’t have gas or ammo or money is because their leadership was stealing it. All the money came from Department of Defense coffers. There was no tax structure or civil authority outside of Kabul. So all the money was dumped in at the top and siphoned from the highest levels like a kleptocracy and there was nothing left.” He says that there was an incentive to inflate costs because everyone was making money: development projects would choose the most expensive bid so that those in charge could make it seem they were spending more money. It didn’t matter if anything got built, from wells to roads to schools. What mattered was that officers or heads of areas like what was called RC East (Regional Command-East) could say they had a successful combatant command experience.
“How do you show you were better than everyone else and make colonel or general and move up the chain of command?” Platner asks rhetorically. You spend more money than your peers. “The military was incapable of change,” he says. “Amusingly, we were doing the same thing but calling it something else, like VSO [Village Stability Operations].” The military had become entangled in a culture of corporate middle management, but with no incentives to actually get things right. Unlike in a business, “the money is not going to shut off. The US military isn’t going to go out of business if they get it wrong.” If anyone had asked the soldiers on the ground, they would have predicted the collapse this year more than a decade ago. Meanwhile, higher-up officers were tabulating the number of “key leader engagements [KLEs]” and other rubrics of success. “If you sit down with dudes in a village and they say they want a road built and say they will tell you when the Taliban will come and they say they love America, but you know it’s a sham, and no one wants to say they failed and suck at their job, so instead of lying, you choose a metric that is kind of vague that you can reach conclusions from.”
The problem was the government never existed, he says. While Afghanistan had buildings labeled “defense” or “taxation” departments, in reality it was an empty shell. US Inspector General reports reveal this, Platner says.
“No one wanted to say anything.... Everyone was a coward, from executive leadership down to the company level where the cowardice stopped. Everyone above that was a coward. They believed it because they had to, they couldn’t bring themselves to admit that this might not be real.”
In the end, his diagnosis is that the Afghanistan government the US supported can’t be said to have “collapsed” because it never existed.
“The Afghan army wasn’t real. The Afghan Civil Authority was never real. They never collected taxes. There were no courts outside of police robbing people. None of it ever existed... it was just a big jobs program funded by American money, and the moment it looked like the money would go away, everyone went home.”
With the exception of Kabul, Charikar and a few other places, he paints a picture of an Afghan state that never controlled much beyond a few highways and cities. That’s why it fell apart so quickly once the US pulled funding.
Bottom line..... there was no nation building. The military played along and used the Afghan occupation to accomplish individual occupational goals. Once engaged, there was no other real choice. Go along, Play along, Get along.
At some point toward the end of 2021, I expect the CIA to admit that half of the Taliban ‘force’ was made up of ex-Afghan soldiers trained by the US military, and who had eventually deserted for various reasons.
I watched the interview of journalist Laura Logan on Fox Nation with Tucker Carlson. She explains how the government wants this Afghanistan abandonment to happen just as being done.
August 19, 2021
Shock video: Lara Logan confirms what we feared about Afghanistan
By Andrea Widburg
Biden’s pullout from Afghanistan has been the worst managed event in American history. With Saigon as an example, the administration knew exactly how bad it would be. There’s a lot of finger-pointing going on now, but, at bottom, people are wondering if the unconditional Taliban takeover, including the trapped Americans, is a deliberate policy. On Tucker Carlson’s Wednesday show, Lara Logan said, “Yes, it is. This was what the government wanted.”
A little background: We’ve been in Afghanistan for 20 years now, ostensibly to “nation-build,” à la Germany and Japan. Back then, though, we completely defeated them and installed ourselves in power, only slowly releasing power if they’d fully embraced Western democratic values. And we still stayed for over 70 years, keeping an eye on things.
We never flattened Afghanistan. Instead, we imposed ourselves on top of a medieval Islamic country, including the whole LGBT madness. It worked for those already geared to Western values and those looking to take American money. The Afghan military, many members of which were brave fighters, clearly would never be ready to lose their training wheels — with our military being the training wheels. Some of you may remember this video, which embodies problems of both culture and competency..
Eisenhower warned us about the Military Industrial Complex..not sure if that is the right word he used.
Afghan “army “ trained to be like ours, fight battles on a battlefield. Taliban trained to hide among the population and then kill your wife and kids. These two are not similar. death from the sky would have been better, and don’t be too careful. The last war the US won they firebombed Dresden and Tokyo.
Excellent post
Yup
There is a reason for the Northern route of the Silk road. The Han dynasty was tired of their caravans and soldiers getting waylaid whenever they dipped into what is now modern day Afghanistan.
The Afghanis that are there now have probably 2000 years of culture related to stealing from other people.
This is not fixable. Ever. Until they are all dead so they cannot pass these same values to the next generation. Unless someone wants to genocide them, the situation cannot and will not ever change.
Democratic republics worked in Japan and Germany because they were transitioning out of feudal societies before it was attempted. Afghanistan was not transitioning. On a short term basis some people demand to be ruled with an iron fist. Long term, the jury is still out. So far it appears that all people demand to be ruled with an iron fist.
The level of corruption and mismanagement that went on is staggering. But the question has to be asked - after 20 years why do the Taliban still exist as a force ? Why do they even exist ?
——feudal societies ——
I understand that it is the narrative to refer to Afghanistan as a Feudal Society.
I will argue that description misses the mark by a fairly wide margin.
Afghanistan is in fact pre-feudal
Afghanistan is rather a Tribal Society that until the Taliban lacked the organizational cohesion present in a real feudal society.
I will suggest that even the Taliban lack the ability to exert meaningful cohesion on Afghanistan
Oh and for general Freeper info....... here’s a greatly informative book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kite_Runner
Very simple...... The Taliban are radical religious zealots
“At some point toward the end of 2021, I expect the CIA to admit that half of the Taliban ‘force’ was made up of ex-Afghan soldiers trained by the US military, and who had eventually deserted for various reasons.”
I must wonder who in America got rich from the fake Taliban soldiers. Just got done watching Tucker Carlson story about the Afghan army taking drugs.
Who did the US Military leadership report this too?
Why was nothing done about this issue?
They liked there poppy production, until they got the fentanyl production. Follow the money!
Horses on the payroll.
Yeah, an old catch phrase.
How many phantom employees are on the payroll, and who is taking those payroll checks.
Hint: fake people do not cash checks.
The Emperor’s New Clothes=——WRIT LARGE.
Sounds like Baltimore.
This probably points to why Trump in a more orderly manner supported out, and explains another reason Ole Joey is content with chaos.
He knows many” wet their beaks” during all these years , via contracts, promotions, other grifter schemes.
Fits his persona and base character as a charlatan, and now one who more than likely doesn’t know it due to his mental capacity.
His only defense is “ tough guy Joe” when someone gets close to the real truth
The media foisted this fool on us and is now walking the feigned outrage tightrope least their role is fully exposed to those who believed in the kinder , competent , elder statesman fraud they sold
Afghanistan was a debacle designed to enrich some people at the cost of bankrupting our nation. Mission Accomplished.
Killing millions of people in their country because we don’t like how they want to live is a crime against humanity.
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