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Biden plan could force thousands of family farms to sell rather than face transfer tax
https://justthenews.com ^ | By Gailon Totheroh Updated: August 19, 2021 - 10:29pm

Posted on 08/20/2021 5:50:58 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger
Why are so many musicians and actors communists?...

Because their 'art' is based on 'feelings' not intellect.

Think of it this way: How many 10 year old dentists are there? How many 8 year old nationally known brain surgeons? How many award winning 5 year old IT department heads? ZERO.

How many 10 year old actors? How many 12 year olds and younger academy awards winners? Bored actors and singers wanting childhood to go on forever - the promise of communism... but too stupid to see the reality of communism is different than the promo.

Songwriters, directors, producers, comedians are jobs requiring intellect so their less likely to fall for commie bs)

41 posted on 08/20/2021 7:01:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (IS THERE A LIST OF AFGHANS WHO HELPED US? OR DO WE TAKE 3 MILLION WHO SHOW UP AT THE AIRPORT?)
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To: Red Badger

Then incorporate NOW.

This has been a risk for a long time.

Form a corporation, put most of the assets in the corporation, get a good lawyer, and follow the corporate law.

The days of Dad willing the farm to his kids died in the 90’s


42 posted on 08/20/2021 7:22:42 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: redgolum

This........................


43 posted on 08/20/2021 7:24:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Pollard

If you sell below market value, you will be taxed according the the assessed and market value. Sometimes with penalties.

The old “I sold it to you for a dollar” shell game has been used for tax evasion for so long, the states have put in controls.


44 posted on 08/20/2021 7:24:37 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: redgolum

Then write the assessed value on the paperwork but exchange whatever amount you want. It would still be less than 40% inheritance tax.

Sort of the opposite of selling a car for $5k but writing $2k on the title to save on sales tax.


45 posted on 08/20/2021 7:35:58 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: KarlInOhio

My family has owned/operate farms in this county since 1889. Some of the land has been held by family members for over 130 years. There is zero debt on it.

My father died at 95 in March. My brother and I inherited his holdings. The current value was a tiny fraction of the current Federal Income Tax threshold. But none of it will be sold.

If this is put in place. It will end 1/2 or more of the family farms in a 20 years span of time.

That is what the Globalist B-tards want.

It is called Confiscation. It is a Communist concept.

Remember? CCP Xi is the O’Biden’s master?

Get it yet?


46 posted on 08/20/2021 8:27:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: redgolum
Form a corporation, put most of the assets in the corporation, get a good lawyer, and follow the corporate law.

Then when you leave your kids shares of Farm Inc. they will be subject to the death tax just as if you had left them shares of Apple. The only difference is calculating the value of Farm Inc. at time of death unlike traded stocks which have published prices.

47 posted on 08/20/2021 8:34:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Anti-fascist" is from the official name of the Berlin Wall: Anti-fascist Protection Barrier.)
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To: Pollard
“It would still be less than 40% inheritance tax.”

Why should government get 40% of property at owner's death?

The state of Texas has no income tax and it has no state inheritance tax.

The issue is run away Federal Bureaucracy. Fixing that is the solution. The federal government already taxes everything to death.

It's TIME to DownSize DC!

Restore the Constitution!Size DC!

48 posted on 08/20/2021 8:34:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil
But the same applies to a Mom & Pop laundromat, a grocery store or a small stack of Apple stock. Would you be less upset if your father had owned the local farm supply store instead of a farm and risked having to sell it for the death tax?

If it is immoral to take half a farm at the owner's death, how is it any less immoral to take other forms of wealth?

49 posted on 08/20/2021 8:40:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Anti-fascist" is from the official name of the Berlin Wall: Anti-fascist Protection Barrier.)
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To: Red Badger

America needs a plan to deal with progressives......extermination.

The progressives are actually Euro thinkers, UK Labor loyalists gone amuck

There can be no co-existence, mandatory extermination is required


50 posted on 08/20/2021 8:44:13 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Like BLM, Joe Biden is a Domestic Enemy )
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To: KarlInOhio

I don’t advocate special preference. I am simply stating that small businesses will be extinct if the Fed Gov monster has it’s way.

I made my living for 40 years doing business with independent businessmen. Was in the wholesale hardware distribution business with 2 privately help companies, most of my life.

I know how hard it is to survive in that.

You can inventory a business and estimate what it is worth.

It is much much harder to come to a fair value for farm land. The value is established by the market. What one is willing to pay for it. It is even more complicated when mineral rights are involved.

At what size should the government take your property. You have already been taxed on it. Confiscation is a Communist concept. Not a capitalist comcept.


51 posted on 08/20/2021 8:56:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Pete Dovgan

Bump!


52 posted on 08/20/2021 8:57:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Red Badger

Stalin grins


53 posted on 08/20/2021 8:58:45 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: redgolum

No, it did not end in the 90’s.

My brother and I inherited my father’s 6 farms in March, when he died at 95.

He spent his entire life building it.

If you want a fight, just try to take it from us.

NUTS!


54 posted on 08/20/2021 9:00:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: KarlInOhio

Key is make them members before Dad dies.

And make sure the corp assets are not the same as personal.

We did it, and for two generations there has been few major issues.

However, I do wonder what happens the next generation. Enough are “off the farm” where selling the assets starts to look attractive.


55 posted on 08/20/2021 9:04:02 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Vaduz

Yep. Stalin killed the Kulaks. Their crime? They were independent. Communist cannot allow that.


The Holodomor: Stalin’s Genocidal Famine that Starved Millions in the 1930s

https://europerenaissance.com/2020/11/28/the-holodomor-stalins-genocidal-famine-that-starved-millions-in-the-1930s/

100 YEARS ON AND THE PERSECUTION OF CAUCASOID CHRISTIANS CONTINUES

The last Saturday of November is Holodomor Day, which is a remembrance of the seven to nine million Ukrainian Christians that were murdered through starvation by Bolsjewik Communists, between 1932 and 1933. Please say a prayer for the poor souls who were not only murdered but the truth of their murders has been buried, along with their emaciated corpses.

(This is what Communist DO!)


56 posted on 08/20/2021 9:07:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Red Badger

It’s called the sell your farm to the PRCs act!


57 posted on 08/20/2021 10:10:23 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: I want the USA back

My first thought, as well!


58 posted on 08/20/2021 11:26:59 AM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: New Perspective

but trusts do help eliminate some of the tax burden.


not eliminate, defer..........................


59 posted on 08/20/2021 1:08:44 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Texas Fossil

As far as I know, special use valuation is still in effect. But the condition is the heirs keep farming and not sell it.


60 posted on 08/20/2021 1:10:16 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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