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What happens in Kabul doesn’t stay in Kabul --- When America appears weak, confused, distracted and at its own throat only bad things happen
asiatimes.com ^ | August 18, 2021 | Grant Newsham

Posted on 08/18/2021 4:50:07 PM PDT by elpadre

George Orwell wrote that “the quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.” The Biden administration tried that idea on for size in Afghanistan.

But here’s the problem: Losing a war rarely means you put the unpleasantness behind you and move on to things you’d rather deal with. Instead, lose a war and you just might end up with other, bigger problems, and maybe other wars.

All eyes are glued on Afghanistan and the sudden collapse of the government and its forces – and the frantic American bugout. Recriminations and blame-shifting have started and will continue. But it’s worth a look at what’s coming next, and not only in Afghanistan. The ripple effects will be worldwide and are worrisome.

We’ve seen this before. When America appears weak, confused, distracted and at its own throat, only bad things happen.

Wars that don’t really end

Consider some of the things that happened after South Vietnam fell to communist North Vietnamese forces in 1975 – while the United States stood by with eyes primly averted while tens of thousands were executed, hundreds of thousands were tossed into prison camps and the ‘boat people’ exodus led to immense suffering and dying.

The blow to American prestige and reliability was grievous and it encouraged America’s enemies – led by the Soviet Union, but also extending to various terror groups – to move on a number of fronts: (continues at link - recommend)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; bidensfault; kabul

1 posted on 08/18/2021 4:50:07 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: elpadre

u talking’ bout Taiwan?


2 posted on 08/18/2021 4:52:36 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: elpadre

We got rid o’ Trump, doesn’t that count for anything? Last four years, he was the biggest problem in the world, he was ruining America’s image in the world. That’s what the MSM and the movie stars all said, I remember.


3 posted on 08/18/2021 4:55:46 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: elpadre

“And they were led by an entire generation of officers who designed joint service campaigns unrestrained by civilian meddling (no possible “stab in the back” blame nonsense), and then decorated themselves with campaign awards and ribbons.

And this, despite losing the Afghan campaign for hearts and minds to an irregular force with a 12th-century view of human rights, no belief in democratic government and supported with a safe harbor and only minimal funding provided by the intelligence service of a third-world government.”


4 posted on 08/18/2021 4:56:38 PM PDT by elpadre ( ge amount of money)
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5 posted on 08/18/2021 4:56:48 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: elpadre

“And these are the people that are going to take on America’s enemies who are flush with confidence and momentum?

China, Russia and other adversaries may reckon, however, that if they wait a while it will get even easier as the Biden Administration dismantles – intentionally or otherwise – America’s defenses, debases the currency and turns Americans against Americans.

These are perilous times, and America had better wake up fast. We will pay for what happened in Afghanistan. “


6 posted on 08/18/2021 4:58:08 PM PDT by elpadre ( ge amount of money)
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To: Steely Tom

He was TWEETING! Obviously the left prefers this to a President tweeting a lot.


7 posted on 08/18/2021 4:59:44 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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To: elpadre

“America’s response?

One hopes America is ready. But the Biden administration has not shown much backbone or competence. And the Chinese are acting already as if they feel they aren’t the least bit intimidated.

They claimed they mopped the floor with Assistant Secretary of State Wendy Sherman and lambasted Antony Blinken and Jake Sullivan (and Kurt Campbell) in Alaska. It will only get worse now.

Especially as one big difference from post-Vietnam is that the American financial and business classes will fund the PRC’s overseas activities and military buildup. They never did that for the Russians.”


8 posted on 08/18/2021 5:01:50 PM PDT by elpadre ( ge amount of money)
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To: elpadre

This is a China CCp propaganda site .


9 posted on 08/18/2021 5:08:50 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists are the real danger l)
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To: elpadre

It should have read “When America IS weak, confused…”


10 posted on 08/18/2021 5:09:24 PM PDT by Bulwinkle (Bulwinkle, a.k.a. Daffy Duck )
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To: elpadre

This all looks like our leadership. We look like our leader. If we lose any of our troops or people there then it’s on bidens hands. My guess is that the media will start hiding things there. But it will be hard to pay off all the media reporting. It’s easier in the USA for the paid off media to hide things. But over seas there is much more things coming out. This is gong to get so much worse and so much quicker. I am betting biden will treat this like the border. This is distracting from the border and the audits. And he will not answer many questions about it. He will push the next 3.5 trillion bill. They will use this to push it through.


11 posted on 08/18/2021 5:21:26 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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He will push the next 3.5 trillion bill. They will use this to push it through.
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These are the Assistant Democrats that enabled it.

Dan Sullivan (R-AK) Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) Mike Crapo (R-ID) Roy Blunt (R-MO) Richard Burr (R-NC) Deb Fischer (R-NE) Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Rob Portman (R-OH) Thom Tillis (R-NC) Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) Jim Risch (R-ID) Chuck Grassley (R-IA) Bill Cassidy (R-LA) Kevin Cramer (R-ND) Roger Wicker (R-MS) Mitch McConnell (R-KY) John Hoeven (R-ND) Susan Collins (R-ME) Mitt Romney (R-UT)


12 posted on 08/18/2021 5:47:41 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This is a last effort to line their pockets with our money. It’s going to blow up and they will attempt to go back to backing Trump and asking for his endorsement. I hope he is smarter this time around. He has no spots in his back to be stabbed.


13 posted on 08/18/2021 5:54:14 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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14 posted on 08/18/2021 6:11:54 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Steely Tom

Can’t say I dont have my popcorn out watching US led GloboHomo get humiliated.

Never thought I’d see the day.


15 posted on 08/18/2021 6:13:07 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
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To: elpadre

President Trump didn’t bow to terrorists.

He bombed the crap out of them.

Trump drops largest-non-nuclear bomb-in Afghanistan

https://youtu.be/d4DLzioGq5M


16 posted on 08/18/2021 6:55:08 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: elpadre
Consider some of the things that happened after South Vietnam fell to communist North Vietnamese forces in 1975 – while the United States stood by with eyes primly averted while tens of thousands were executed, hundreds of thousands were tossed into prison camps and the ‘boat people’ exodus led to immense suffering and dying.

A number of dominos also fell, including Guinea-Bissau, Mozambique, Angola, Sao Tome e Principe, Ethiopia and Rhodesia, which were swept into the Soviet bloc.

17 posted on 08/18/2021 7:00:04 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: elpadre

You left out the part about allowing the future terrorists to enter our country via the Southern Border; their weapons of choice were no doubt smuggled in also.

Wait a couple of years, research the plan and develop the logistics then go after the target on 9/11/23 during election season. Perhaps the target will be the likely GOP winner, who knows? But they will want to make a big splash to celebrate the stupidity of the cretin who let them in with little risk.


18 posted on 08/18/2021 8:39:20 PM PDT by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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To: elpadre

Well, when Trump was president (in office), and it was known by the world that he was truly backed by the people of America enough to beat the massive 2016 election fraud, world dictators knew they had no chance on their own, and not to so stupid stuff with Trump in office.

They had to act in unison with the anti-American global socialist left deep state and uniparty, to first get rid of Trump.

Half of the above equation is gone now, and they are moving as fast as possible to eliminate any future challenges to their high crimes, mass murder, and new ownership of us.


19 posted on 08/18/2021 9:12:29 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: elpadre

Let’s rephrase the headline.

“What happens with the Left, doesn’t stay with the Left”

1. Roosevelt (a leftist), gives Moscow Eastern Europe (more than Stalin was supposed to have gained with Hitler), and then in a nutshell, gives up China to the Communist.

2. Mao, (backed by Stalin, and significant amounts of American Made war machinery given to Moscow during WWII), wipes out by genocide and starvation, nearly 100 million Chinese, and resulting in the mass evacuation to Formosa (Taiwan), of hundreds of thousands of Chinese and their government, who flee the communist genocidal bloodbath taking place.

3. The Chinese and Soviets engineer and make big communist moves on all of Southeast Asia, where 25 years of communist backed revolutionary bloodbaths kill up to another estimated 13 million men, women, and children, (most of which died before our involvement in Korea or Vietnam).

Skipping myriad historically importent pivot points —

4. Through the course of a generation, the US acts to drive a geopolitical and economic wedge between Russia and China, resulting in the Chinese Politburo becoming so powerful, they are now acting to corrupt, influence, and determine US elections, and elections, and foreign policy around the world.

The fraudulent deep state puppet president Buyden, is himself a partial (or fractal), product of Chinese corruption and bribery of America’s political elites and IC, AS WELL AS the deep state decision to increase and embolden Chinese influence and control of the Middle East, which is designed to directly increase proxy Iranian power, an assistance with Moscows overall ME blueprint.

So, yes, this small decision to exfill in the deliberate manner we have, from the Afghan proxy, is designed to exponentially explode the macro danger of large scale kinetic war.


20 posted on 08/18/2021 9:59:38 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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