Posted on 08/17/2021 12:33:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone
Look the bit you said about the requirement for health care workers to always report deaths in a certain amount of time, is that brand new this year?
FDA can pull their license to sell
How do you know these adverse reactions were caused by the vaccines. Correlation is not causation.
I think we can rule out the adverse reactions being the cause of the vaccines, particularly in the deaths.
Still, perhaps the adverse reactions have another cause that correlated to getting jabbed. That people who report the reactions do not recognize as the cause of the adverse reaction.
If there is such a cause, it seems it is the first year in the 30 years of the VAERS system this cause has popped up though as the reported adverse reactions have exploded way way way way past previous years.
Occam's razor seems to scream that the most likely cause is that the vaccines are more dangerous this year. But hey it does not actually prove it beyond the Cartesian method of doubt.
For the people that were vaccinated and died from any cause, they use the On-Line Ouija Board at WeHateVaccines.Com to confirm that the evil vaccine is at fault.
“ How do you know these adverse reactions were caused by the vaccines. Correlation is not causation.”
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It doesn’t matter.
LMAO!! The web-site is VaccineDeaths.Com!!!!
If someone dies from choking on a hot dog, at that web-site, if dead person was vaccinated, the vaccine killed him…….because Pfizer ruined his throat operations. 🤣😂😆🤪
My sister-in-law died the other day from internal hemorrhage after getting the ‘vaccine’. Drs had all kind of reasons for her death, basically issuing a death cert that said she died because her heart stopped. The heart stops in every death—that’s not the CAUSE. If you’re mangled in a car accident, and your heart stops, you died from a car accident. If you get a gunshot wound, and your heart stops, you died of the gunshot wound. In my sister-in-law’s case, it was a bogus reason as they refused to consider the vaccine as the cause of her hemorrhage. I looked up VAERS, and I could not see where you could SELF report any adverse effects; only hospitals/medical professionals could submit data. At least that’s what I found. So...if you have a hospital and complicit drs all denying the involvement of the vaccine, and attributing death to bogus causes, then it’s no wonder it’s been reported that < 10% of adverse effects are reported. The system is rigged that way.
If these criminals in the government can steal an American election they could do an say anything
No, there’s always a timeframe for mandatory healthcare provider reporting. If there weren’t, mandatory reporting events would get out of hand in a hurry. For example, you give the MMR vaccine to a child and they die 30 years later of something which could - conceivably - somehow relate back to the vaccine. Clearly you don’t want that muddying the waters. But certain events must be reported if they occur within specific timeframes. This is all well defined vaccine-by-vaccine: https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERS_Table_of_Reportable_Events_Following_Vaccination.pdf
The thing that’s atypical here is the requirement that certain serious adverse events be reported “regardless of causality” (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/hcproviders/reportingadverseevents.html). This means that - by the letter of the reporting requirements - a person who gets vaccinated and then gets hit by a bus/struck by lightning/shot in a drive-by on their way back to their car is subject to mandatory reporting into VAERS. Is every healthcare provider necessarily following that? No. But it’s right there in black and white and there’s no way to know how many are following the requirement without digging into the VAERS cases individually.
And that’s the problem with referring to VAERS data in a vacuum: VAERS reports can be filed by anyone, anywhere, any time, for any reason. There’s a VAERS code for a broken leg. Does anyone believe that a vaccine will cause your leg to snap? No, but it’s there if you want to report it. It’s the Wikipedia of vaccine injury reports and the data is an absolute mess. But don’t take my word for it, look at the HHS website specifically for how to interpret VAERS data (https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html):
“The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
“VAERS reports can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members. Reports vary in quality and completeness. They often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.”
“No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.”
Is the data worthless? Absolutely not, but it’s also not to be taken as clean, verified, complete, accurate, or anything else suggesting it’s useful by itself to prove or confirm anything whatsoever. 100,000 death reports appearing tomorrow don’t confirm that 100,000 people died from vaccines. A single script running from a Chinese hacker could drop that many reports in minutes. And people with an agenda will happily take those reports as absolute undeniable proof that the vaccines are terrible deadly blah blah blah.
Prayers up for your sister in law and family.
Geeze. So there is no data that can be trusted.
Thank you for the prayers. The family is grieving; so unexpected and sooo fast. It’s one thing to read a database of nameless people’s adverse effects and/or deaths. It’s another to have it happen up close with loved ones. It’s all in God’s hands.
There is, but you have to be aware of what that data is and where it comes from. In the case of VAERS, you have unverified data from unknown sources, often riddled with errors and/or missing information. It’s useful to researchers looking for patterns in the data that may indicate a problem, but it’s not a valid source for “X number of people have had Y problem because of the vaccine”. VAERS themselves tell you - explicitly - that the data in VAERS is not valid for that. For one, there’s no direct comparison within VAERS to the background rate for any given adverse event.
There’s research that happens outside of VAERS that establishes what issues are present. That’s how the J&J blood clots issue was found. That’s how the issues with anaphylaxis with Moderna and Pfizer were found. Each of those happens in the range of 1 in 90,000 - 1 in 400,000. Extremely rare events. The clotting issue in particular is difficult because it’s not like an immediate allergic reaction where you give the vaccine and 3 minutes later the patient is going into shock. So establishing cause-and-effect requires a lot of work.
But still, let us give the idea of the increase in deaths in VAERs being do to over blaming the vaccination a chance. I think the first thing we should consider is how many Americans typically die per day, specifically how many that got vaccinated do...
Population of US: about 333 million. Not sure of vaccination rates but lets say its half of the population for all years. So we treat this as 166.5 million.
Average life span: about 79 years, or 28,835 days.
So dividing this population by this number of days we get an expected average of 5774 deaths per day for vaccinated Americans.
Since most VAERs deaths are reported in first two days after the vaccine, one might expect as many as twice the average per day, which puts us at about 11,500 deaths in those two days after getting a vaccination that could just be pure chance.
Now since I don't have better data, I had made several rough assumptions. Including that people are just as likely to get vaccinated right before they were going to die of something unrelated as they would on any other day.
But as rough as this is, it shows me that there is a great potential for people blaming thousands of deaths on vaccines that were not due to the vaccine if we ignore people's ability to make a distinction between a death from vaccine and those not due to a vaccine.
However in a typical year, of this 11,500 approximate deaths in the two days following a jab, from what I can tell we only have about 120 or so blamed on vaccine. So for thirty years of the VAERs system, people have only blamed the typical flu vaccine (and other vaccines, but flu is the one huge numbers of people get each year) about 1% of the time.
As far as we know then, on a typical year none of the actual 150 or so reported deaths to VAERs blamed on vaccines actually were on the Vaccines. That seems pretty safe to me! So I have no trouble getting those vaccines, they don't seem at all dangerous.
But how about this year? What if we assume that the vaccines actually caused none of the deaths that were blamed on them at all. Is this plausible still? Afraid not. It would move the 1% of deaths falsely blamed that is typical to about 100% falsely blamed since we have roughly 10,000 deaths reported in first two days after vaccinations and roughly the same number of deaths we would expect to happen from all causes on two given days.
I think any objective layman with a little competence in math and common sense is forced to acknowledge that it is not remotely plausible that the new vaccines are anywhere near as safe as the typical flu shot.
There also seems far too much reason to suspect it is far far more dangerous. But I hope that this is not the case. Still I think at this point it is beyond irresponsible to use coercion on people to take these shots.
What is the short version of Dr. Marik’s Protocol?
If its not brand new this year, then how on Earth did we get so few deaths blamed on vaccines in previous years vs this year? The ratio is reaching close to two orders of magnitude now.
A woman I know tried to report her 20 year old’s death. He dropped dead at the breakfast table the morning after the vaccination. They requested an autopsy, but she was told it would take 6 months to get the autopsy results. So his death isn’t in the database yet.
Yes it is. I am sorry for your loss. God bless.
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