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Federal lawsuit seeks to stop or dramatically alter Gavin Newsom recall election
SF Gate ^ | 08/17/2021 | Eric Ting

Posted on 08/17/2021 9:31:19 AM PDT by SES1066

A federal lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California seeks to stop the Gavin Newsom recall election from happening as scheduled on Sept. 14. The suit, filed by voters R.J. Beaber and A.W. Clark, alleges that the recall election is unconstitutional because it denies pro-Newsom voters equal protection of the law guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment. This argument was made by Berkeley Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, who wrote a New York Times op-ed last week arguing that because Newsom "can receive far more votes than any other candidate but still be removed from office," it violates a "core constitutional principle that has been followed for over 60 years: Every voter should have an equal ability to influence the outcome of the election."

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; cdcalifornia; democratparty
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As night follows day, you can smell the flop-sweat of the Democrat Establishment!

So, per the Berkley Law Profs, for the recall to be 'fair', the 1st vote would just be to recall Newsom by majority vote. Then if the vote is 'yes', he is removed from Governorship and a new election is held to get the top two vote choices. Then a third election is held between the two for a majority vote to finish replacing Newsom. Which, by then will be impinging upon the 2022 election cycle which Newsom is currently a candidate for Governor.

1 posted on 08/17/2021 9:31:19 AM PDT by SES1066
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To: SES1066

The Feds do not have authority over a state election like this.


2 posted on 08/17/2021 9:32:50 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The First Amendment Doesn't Care About Your Feelings)
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To: SES1066

If he’s taken down it will be done with little help from the freepers.


3 posted on 08/17/2021 9:33:05 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SES1066

Wow.

Newsom is SO reviled, the expletive-deleted can’t even win a rigged election.

WTG, Deep State!


4 posted on 08/17/2021 9:34:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: SES1066

Isn’t this a Democrat passed law?....................


5 posted on 08/17/2021 9:37:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SES1066

This is to guarantee a RAT successor is installed.


6 posted on 08/17/2021 9:37:59 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SES1066

arguing that because Newsom “can receive far more votes than any other candidate but still be removed from office,” it violates a “core constitutional principle that has been followed for over 60 years: Every voter should have an equal ability to influence the outcome of the election ... as many times as needed.”


7 posted on 08/17/2021 9:39:08 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SES1066

Further you can vote against the recall and not intend to be voting “for” Newsom. A vote against is not equal to a vote for.


8 posted on 08/17/2021 9:40:52 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SES1066

If this suit prevails, rank choice voting is dead.


9 posted on 08/17/2021 9:44:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SES1066

The premise of this is BS. Newsome’s name still has the same weight in the election. Anyone who votes not recall him is voting for him automatically. If 51% of voters vote not to recall him then he wins. So this is just so stupid.


10 posted on 08/17/2021 9:44:54 AM PDT by Revel
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so that a person who votes for recall has twice as many votes as a person who votes against recall...

No - those that leave Q2 blank, could easily write in Newsom instead.

Funny, the arguments being made is exactly those used against RCV, except the left is making them.

11 posted on 08/17/2021 9:45:16 AM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both)
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To: Red Badger
The recall process in California was by a voter proposition to amend the state Constitution.

Since 1913, there have been 55 attempts to recall the Governor. In that time, only two have qualified to be held.

I would think a court would consider something that was tried 55 times and successfully advanced to a ballot twice to be "settled law."

-PJ

12 posted on 08/17/2021 9:46:13 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If this suit prevails, rank choice voting is dead.

Oh no, it's not. Depends on the situation; if a democrat is likely to lose, its unconstitutional. If a democrat is guaranteed to win, it's perfectly OK.

13 posted on 08/17/2021 9:47:53 AM PDT by henkster ("We can always fool the foreigner" - Chinese Proverb)
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To: SES1066
Central District of California, Western Division:

The Western Division covers Los Angeles, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, and Ventura Counties.

#	Title	        Judge	                Duty station	Born	Term of service	chief judge     Appointed by
72	Chief Judge	Philip S. Gutierrez	Los Angeles	1959	2007–present	2020–present	G.W. Bush
37	District Judge	Stephen Victor Wilson	Los Angeles	1941	1985–present	—	—	Reagan
60	District Judge	Virginia A. Phillips	Los Angeles	1957	1999–present	2016–2020	Clinton
61	District Judge	Percy Anderson	        Los Angeles	1948	2002–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
62	District Judge	John F. Walter	        Los Angeles	1944	2002–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
63	District Judge	R. Gary Klausner	Los Angeles	1941	2002–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
67	District Judge	Dale S. Fischer	        Los Angeles	1951	2003–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
73	District Judge	Otis D. Wright II	Los Angeles	1944	2007–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
74	District Judge	George H. Wu	        Los Angeles	1950	2007–present	—	—	G.W. Bush
76	District Judge	Dolly Gee	        Los Angeles	1959	2010–present	—	—	Obama
78	District Judge	John Kronstadt	        Los Angeles	1951	2011–present	—	—	Obama
79	District Judge	Michael W. Fitzgerald	Los Angeles	1959	2012–present	—	—	Obama
81	District Judge	Fernando M. Olguin	Los Angeles	1961	2013–present	—	—	Obama
83	District Judge	André Birotte Jr.	Los Angeles	1966	2014–present	—	—	Obama
84	District Judge	Stanley Blumenfeld	Los Angeles	1962	2020–present	—	—	Trump
86	District Judge	Mark C. Scarsi	        Los Angeles	1964	2020–present	—	—	Trump
87	District Judge	Fernando Aenlle-Rocha	Los Angeles	1961	2020–present	—	—	Trump
======================                                                                  senior                  chief    
23	Senior Judge	Terry J. Hatter Jr.	Los Angeles	1933	1979–2005	2005–present	Carter  1998–2001
26	Senior Judge	Consuelo Bland Marshall	Los Angeles	1936	1980–2005	2005–present	Carter  2001–2005
35	Senior Judge	William Duffy Keller	Los Angeles	1934	1984–1999	1999–present	Reagan
41	Senior Judge	Ronald S. W. Lew	Los Angeles	1941	1987–2006	2006–present	Reagan
51	Senior Judge	Dean Pregerson	        Los Angeles	1951	1996–2016	2016–present	Clinton
52	Senior Judge	Christina A. Snyder	Los Angeles	1947	1997–2016	2016–present	Clinton
71	Senior Judge	Valerie Baker Fairbank	Los Angeles	1949	2007–2012	2012–present	G.W. Bush

14 posted on 08/17/2021 9:52:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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bump


15 posted on 08/17/2021 9:53:30 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: SES1066

The numbers must be looking bad for Newsom for them to start pulling out this crap.


16 posted on 08/17/2021 9:54:32 AM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: SES1066

desperation


17 posted on 08/17/2021 10:02:03 AM PDT by Wuli (Biden )
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To: SES1066
Part of the problem is that people don't understand the purpose of a recall. In other parliamentary systems, the first part of the recall is called a "vote of no confidence." It's a separate question. Assuming that the no-confidence vote exceeds the confidence vote, the incumbent is removed from office. Such a removal implies the incumbent is unfit to serve that office, and is therefore not eligible to regain the office.

The second part is to determine, if the first part declares no confidence, who replaces the turned-out officer.

So the existing structure of the California recall fits this model perfectly. The fact this is rolled up into a single ballot does not detract from the two functions.

18 posted on 08/17/2021 10:22:57 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: SES1066

Last I heard this rabid leftist clown was at UC Irvine. A promotion to Berkeley is altogether fitting. He is one Hugh Spewitt’s favorites, a total befuddled leftist jackass.


19 posted on 08/17/2021 11:13:34 AM PDT by Fungi
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To: SES1066

The issue of recall, option one on the ballot, allows for an
even chance for yes or no on the recall.

It doesn’t surprise me that the Democrats think it should be
90/10 in their favor to be fair.


20 posted on 08/17/2021 11:27:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Folks, if you haven't yet, please start an automatic monthly for Jim and his crew.)
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