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Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination ?
Journal of Infection ^ | August 09, 2021 | Nouara Yahi, Henri Chahinian, Jacques Fantini

Posted on 08/13/2021 7:26:07 AM PDT by MMaschin

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To: from occupied ga

The vaccine I’m interested in is the TB vaccine...here in the USA you can only get the TB test.
This vax I believe would cut detrimental effects of COVID in half. Additionally it would help protect to some degree against TB which we know will come in readily via open borders.
Studies at Baylor in TX of healthcare workers illustrated that they never contracted the COVID despite serving large amounts of the public.


21 posted on 08/13/2021 9:42:57 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: magna carta

I have no valid observations on that since I have no data on that. Just from my opinions formed in the absence of hard data I would guess that a TB vaccine would be more important in the future since the Biden administration has opened the floodgates to illegal and no doubt diseased invaders and is spreading them around the country as fast as they can. I expect a resurgence of many diseases that we think of as third world problems since the Democrats have brought the third world to us.


22 posted on 08/13/2021 9:48:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

The clue is that the FDA has blocked it....


23 posted on 08/13/2021 9:50:47 AM PDT by magna carta
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Since we know about ADE did anyone ask these drug companies or Falsi what was done to mitigate this in these new experimental jabs? Kind of an obvious question to me.


24 posted on 08/13/2021 10:10:11 AM PDT by DHerion
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To: from occupied ga

I got “vaccinated” myself, and have no regrets, because it will reduce the likelihood I die from the virus. That being said, one cannot in good faith compare polio or smallpox and COVID-19.

Polio virus has NO animal reservoir and is not highly contagious. Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9203732/

Smallpox has NO animal reservoir and while more contagious than polio, was far less than contagious than COVID. https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/smallpox

COVID-19 has cats, bats and God knows how many others as animal reservoirs, and is freaking airborne.

Contagious viruses with animal reservoirs are metaphysically impossible to eliminate. At best a flu vaccine-type strategy might reduce the death toll, but I’m afraid COVID is here to stay, even if 100% of the population gets “vaccinated.”


25 posted on 08/13/2021 10:43:30 AM PDT by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: DHerion

Yes, according to the article. They are specifically concerned that the delta variant changes things, although they haven’t seen a problem yet.


26 posted on 08/13/2021 10:46:52 AM PDT by Retphys
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To: MMaschin
While it appears that the vaccines worked well against the original version of the virus, it appears that they are causing ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) when presented with the Delta variant.

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Mmmyyyesssssss.......it's just that they dont have a test that correctly identifies 'Covid' or 'Covid variants,' nor separate them from other illnessess. So actually, the 'vaccines' don't work, but enough time has elapsed for the vaccines to cause ADE when a person gets a variety of respiratory or other illnesses.

27 posted on 08/13/2021 11:03:02 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: from occupied ga

Maybe you should peddle yours somewhere else, or maybe get a clue.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1383764/

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective.


28 posted on 08/13/2021 11:07:24 AM PDT by roving
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29 posted on 08/13/2021 11:28:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: from occupied ga

Why the anger? Talking down to people instead of to people just makes you sound like a liberal.


30 posted on 08/13/2021 12:29:08 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: MMaschin

What many of us predicted.


31 posted on 08/13/2021 12:45:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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To: from occupied ga

Talking about critical thinking, polio and smallpox are not in the dpsame category of disease as coronavirus and the vaccines for them spare true vaccines buy classic definition.

Comparing Covid to smallpox and polio is comparing apples to oranges and you are the one peddling BS in regard to the covid so-called “vaccine”.


32 posted on 08/13/2021 12:49:42 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…. )
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Very interesting document. Following is just a “taste”:

The Italian group further proposes that a COVID-19 disinfection regimen by gargling with hydrogen peroxide through mouth rinses (and gargles), two to three times a day, could be useful for the disinfection of COVID-19 from the oral cavity. They also recommended nasal washes with a peroxide nebulizer two times a day. In their opinion, “the effectiveness of hydrogen peroxide-based therapeutic regimen would be verifiable by a significant reduction in the rate of hospitalizations and respiratory complications in patients positive to SARS-CoV-2”.


33 posted on 08/13/2021 1:28:36 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: roving

And yet no one had polio in the USA today.


34 posted on 08/13/2021 3:38:29 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Nice straw man, but I’m not biting. What I said and what you are well aware I said was that the original moron who said all vaccines are evil was peddling bullshit, and since you seem unable to admit you’re wrong when presented with the evidence, but rather pretend I said something I didn’t I guess that makes you the kind of FR jackass that can’t admit when he’s wrong.


35 posted on 08/13/2021 3:43:29 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: sarge83

Show me where I’m “talking down to people”


36 posted on 08/13/2021 3:45:06 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

Don’t respond to morons; address the central point of the article. The fact that you responded to the moron and not to the scientific claims in the article ticked me off. Ignore idiots, and address the substance of the article. The fact that you focused on the idiot suggested you did not want to deal with the substance.


37 posted on 08/13/2021 3:47:32 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DHerion

Since we know about ADE did anyone ask these drug companies or Falsi what was done to mitigate this in these new experimental jabs? Kind of an obvious question to me.


A way to completely eliminate the risk of ADE for a coronavirus vaccine hasn’t been discovered.

Taking a coronavirus vaccine is a gamble.


38 posted on 08/13/2021 3:50:11 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: metmom
You get an F in reading comprehension. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't read the original post that I first responded to. However, if you actually read it you would see that the original poster said and I quote
"The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent"
which no matter how bellicose you are can only be interpreted as a condemnation of all vaccines. This prompted my response which then prompted your strawman crap about vaccines not being in the same category. I never said they were. Or are you one of those people who agree with the above quote?
39 posted on 08/13/2021 3:55:04 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Steve_Seattle

So you’re changing the subject. I didn’t respond to the article but to a guy posting bullshit. And now I’m criticized by you for what I responded to. Sorry tootsie role, but you don’t get to determine who and what I post about.


40 posted on 08/13/2021 3:57:47 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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