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Here’s why herd immunity from Covid is ‘mythical’ with the delta variant
CNBC ^ | 8-12-21 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 08/12/2021 3:03:55 PM PDT by Meah

Achieving herd immunity with Covid vaccines when the highly infectious delta variant is spreading is “not a possibility,” a leading epidemiologist said.

Experts agree on several reasons why such a goal — where overall immunity in a population is reached and the spread of the virus is stopped — is not likely.

Sir Andrew Pollard, head of the Oxford Vaccine Group, told British lawmakers Tuesday that as Covid vaccines did not stop the spread of the virus entirely — with vaccinated people still able to be infected and transmit the virus — the idea of achieving herd immunity was “mythical.”

“I think we are in a situation here with this current variant where herd immunity is not a possibility because it still infects vaccinated individuals,” said Pollard, one of the lead researchers in the creation of the AstraZeneca-University of Oxford vaccine...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: branchcovidian; chat; chatforum; covid1984; deltavariant; dsj03; fakenews; falsi; fauciouchie; fearmongering; fraudci; herdimmunity
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And the point of a mandate is ... herd immunity? Umm...I’m confused. Why the calls for mandatory vaccines?
1 posted on 08/12/2021 3:03:55 PM PDT by Meah
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To: Meah

What? Are you ignorant or something? We need a mandatory vaccine that doesn’t give you immunity, so we can get herd immunity, even though that’s also impossible.

It’s like that. /s


2 posted on 08/12/2021 3:06:28 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Meah

Reading anything CNBC has to write is a waste of time.


3 posted on 08/12/2021 3:07:25 PM PDT by albie
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To: Meah

COVID FOREVER IS NOW !


4 posted on 08/12/2021 3:08:36 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Meah
We quarantined well people. Had we not doen that, we probably would have reached herd immunity very quickly...thanks to the children.

Fauci screwed up

5 posted on 08/12/2021 3:10:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Meah

Animal reservoir for the virus makes it impossible.


6 posted on 08/12/2021 3:12:51 PM PDT by jacknhoo ( Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation. )
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To: Meah

The CDC, Fauci, et al: Sweden cannot achieve herd immunity.

Sweden: hold our Kopparberg!


7 posted on 08/12/2021 3:13:02 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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Because the “delta variant” is mythical. It doesn’t exist. It’s existence is based completely on modeling by the clown who said England would have 2 million deaths:

https://summit.news/2020/12/21/scientists-mps-ask-where-is-evidence-of-70-more-contagious-mutant-covid/


8 posted on 08/12/2021 3:13:32 PM PDT by MIDad23
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To: Meah

Natural Immunity is Broad and Robust, The Vaccine Immunity is Limited and narrow because it is only a small portion of the virus.

Everything that has been done since last year was the exact opposite of 100 years worth of immunology and infectious disease SCIENCE and research.

There is ONLY One road out of this puzzle and that is Herd Immunity through Natural Infection and recovery


9 posted on 08/12/2021 3:14:14 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Meah

‘We made a big mistake’ — COVID Vaccine spike protein travels from injection site, can cause organ damage

COVID vaccine researchers had previously assumed mRNA COVID vaccines would behave like traditional vaccines. The vaccine’s spike protein — responsible for infection and its most severe symptoms — would remain mostly in the injection site at the shoulder muscle or local lymph nodes.

But new research obtained by a group of scientists contradicts that theory, a Canadian cancer vaccine researcher said last week.

“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist and associate professor at University of Guelph, Ontario. “We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin.”


10 posted on 08/12/2021 3:14:31 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Sacajaweau

The same Fauxci that prophesied of a pandemic would not have deliberately encouraged the lockdowns?


11 posted on 08/12/2021 3:14:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Meah

So it would be the herd immunity we’ve all gotten for things like flu bugs or common colds right? /$


12 posted on 08/12/2021 3:15:18 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: albie

I am surprised CNBC is reporting this. It must be unavoidable.


13 posted on 08/12/2021 3:18:22 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Sacajaweau

Fauci didn’t screw up.

CoupFlu has NEVER been about public health.


14 posted on 08/12/2021 3:19:13 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Meah

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/the-worst-cover-up-in-the-history-of-the-world-vaccinations-are-monkey-business/

The vaccine industry is pure evil and fraudulent

Immunization is bullcrap as are “ antibodies “

It is a criminal cartel. With democrats as their stasi


15 posted on 08/12/2021 3:19:41 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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To: Meah
"Sir Andrew Pollard, head of the Oxford Vaccine Group"


16 posted on 08/12/2021 3:21:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Truthoverpower
Amen. See 16, and this.

Daszak/Ecohealth was Fauci's funded "cutout" to continue GOF research in Wuhan after it was banned in the USA.


17 posted on 08/12/2021 3:23:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Meah

Apparently there is no escape, we’re all going to die, so let’s party.


18 posted on 08/12/2021 3:24:24 PM PDT by McGavin999 (biden is not my president )
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To: jacknhoo

Yup the bioweapon was designed to be zoological from the start thus giving it an endemic vector and host source for all of eternity. It’s working American white tail deer are infected on a mass scale and it also has proven to infect, cows,dogs,cats,monks,tigers,apes,monkey’s,sheep any animal that has ACE2 cells is infectable and those cells are the primary respiratory cells for all mammals, avians too in short this bug can infect every warm.blooded animal on earth ask yourself has there ever been a bug that can do that before and if not why? Then ask why one would add in HIV spike proteins that no mammal not avians has immunity against then ask why one would release such a bug in the world.

https://www.nbc15.com/2021/08/10/67-percent-white-tailed-deer-tested-michigan-had-covid-19-antibodies/


19 posted on 08/12/2021 3:29:01 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Meah

Here’s why CNBC is full of crap.

Meaningless piffle.

Squawking for squawking’ sake.

About nothing.


20 posted on 08/12/2021 3:33:18 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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