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Agencies With Most $100,000+ Federal Employees
FedSmith ^ | Sept. 9, 2020 | Ralph Smith

Posted on 08/10/2021 6:42:52 AM PDT by edwinland

Agencies With Most Employees Making Over $100,000 With the average federal employee’s salary standing at $87,312, which agencies have the most employees that make significantly more than average?

Here is a listing of agencies with the highest number of employees who are paid at least $100,000.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; FReeper Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bloat
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To: brianl703

Actually the real money is paid at government contractors and consultants which this guy works at one and does make serious dough.


21 posted on 08/10/2021 7:16:49 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RBW in PA

And its not just the salaries of Fed employees. I would love to see what “contractors” are paid.

I have a brother who was a DIA “contractor.” He got paid tons of money through “government contracts.” He was gone a lot and came home with a nice tan. And PTSD.


22 posted on 08/10/2021 7:17:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: nascarnation

And real estate wasn’t always really high here. Back about 40 years ago, even Mclean was cheap enough for the sort of people that now inhabit trailer parks in Manassas.


23 posted on 08/10/2021 7:18:29 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: nascarnation

I know two people that used to be contractors and now make far more money working directly for the FedGov...


24 posted on 08/10/2021 7:19:41 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: McGavin999

Not when you print your own money. The beat goes on and on and on...


25 posted on 08/10/2021 7:24:44 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: NicoDon

NicoDon wrote: “People make a lot out of this 100k number. It sounds like a lot of money to most reasonable people, and its thrown around a lot in rants against the government and government employees.”

Also of importance. The federal workforce isn’t comparable to the national workforce. The federal government has a much higher percentage of college educated employees. It doesn’t hire a lot of service industry people. It is much more STEM oriented.


26 posted on 08/10/2021 7:30:47 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: V_TWIN

STEM is Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math. DoD has lots of people with those types of degrees. The commercial world pays well for this and thegovernment needs to be competitive to attract and retain them.


27 posted on 08/10/2021 7:40:38 AM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: RBW in PA

Got it.

Yeah we didn’t have much turnover in Naval aviation maintenance engineering that I’m aware of.

Also, in the private sector I’ve seen engineering types get relocated all over the world and if they didn’t like it well, too bad.


28 posted on 08/10/2021 7:46:11 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: brianl703

I work at an engineering firm in the DC metro area and we are a government contractor. About 50% of our work comes from the FedGov. We have lost multiple employees to the FedGov due to benefits and medical care. Sometimes when they leave they take a small paycut initially, but the overall benefits are much better in the public sector. My maxed out vacation time is basically what a Fed starts with in the first year.


29 posted on 08/10/2021 7:49:40 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: brianl703

“I know two people that used to be contractors and now make far more money working directly for the FedGov”

Just the opposite here. I knew a lot of people that hired on with the fed gov after military service, did their required time to retire and then came back as contractors in the same facility....many times doing the exact same job.

Now THAT’S triple dippin’!


30 posted on 08/10/2021 7:50:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN

As a guy told me in DC back in 2009...All the guys wear 1000 dollar suits and all the girls have 500 dollar dresses, shoes, and handbags.


31 posted on 08/10/2021 7:54:58 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: brianl703

no, usually cost of living is commensurate with population and employment opportunity density.

its your typical economics equation of supply and demand.

If you plop 500k jobs down in a 3 mile area the surrounding apartments and homes value and rental pricing is going to go through the roof due to demand. It doesn’t even initially matter how well paying those jobs are. The demand on the housing is going to drive prices up, and the prices of the housing is going to dictate the salaries that the jobs pay over a longer period of time.

You’ve seen fast food restaurants in NYC no doubt. Do you think those fast food places pay the same wages as the ones in Topeka or Boise? The wages in NYC are high because no one is going to commute for 30-60 minutes for a job that pays 10 bucks an hour, and no one making 10 bucks an hour can afford to get an apartment close enough to walk to the fast food place to work. Wages are driven up because of the cost of living, but the cost of living is driven up because of demand. Demand is driven up due to the jobs that are available. its all interlinked, but the wages are not just arbitrarily set to a high level because its DC.


32 posted on 08/10/2021 8:02:52 AM PDT by NicoDon
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To: NicoDon

Most of the jobs in the DC area that pay well happen to be related to Federal work....


33 posted on 08/10/2021 8:20:20 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: NicoDon

And the fast food restaurants and other low-wage services industries in the DC area figured out how they can pay the same wages here that they do in Boise:

They just hire people that live 20 to a house.


34 posted on 08/10/2021 8:22:23 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: CollegeRepublican

Definitely a lot more job security. Most contractors don’t like their employees on “bench” very long and will lay them off.


35 posted on 08/10/2021 8:24:22 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: edwinland
Decades/Generations ago, there was the UNWRITTEN government vs. private employment compact that many felt had the proper balance between employment. Much of it boiled down to government workers had stable life-time 9-5 jobs and reasonable retirements in a small slice of total domestic employment.

Private sector employment had better pay, potential rapid merit advancement, no guarantee of job stability, little protection from workplace disruptions but lots of openings in a large employment sector.

It does not take a genius to see how radically this equation has changed. Today, it could be said that all of the advantage lies with government employment unless the person is in the class of a Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos.

What is unsaid in articles like this is the huge weight it gives, economically & politically, to the permanent government bureaucracy. From their comfortable office chairs and massive benefit packages, there is little incentive for them to vote against self interest, which is a permanent STATIST and ever-growing DEMOCRATIC PARTY government!

36 posted on 08/10/2021 8:27:16 AM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: NicoDon

“If you plop 500k jobs down in a 3 mile area the surrounding apartments and homes value and rental pricing is going to go through the roof due to demand. It doesn’t even initially matter how well paying those jobs are.”

Yes, it does matter how well paying those jobs are, because unless those houses are being purchased with cash, the mortgage applicant’s income determines how big of a loan they qualify for.


37 posted on 08/10/2021 8:39:22 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: SES1066

Federal employees will always tell you that they could make more money in the private sector.


38 posted on 08/10/2021 8:40:37 AM PDT by brianl703
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To: brianl703

renters don’t need mortgages.


39 posted on 08/10/2021 8:41:02 AM PDT by NicoDon
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To: brianl703

The DC metro area also has a ridiculous number of law firms (lobbyists), federal contractors of every imaginable kind, and of course all the service industries needed for the huge population.

There is at least one federal contractor for every federal employee. In DC they are called the “shadow government”.

Even folks who have nothing to do with the government depend on people who do work for the government or federal contractors to be their customers.


40 posted on 08/10/2021 8:41:57 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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