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It's just a mess (Upstate NY)
flimes.com ^ | 7/31/21 | Mike Hibbard

Posted on 08/09/2021 3:27:37 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU

PHELPS — Over the last week or so, people who take their returnables to Coon’s Cans locations in Phelps and Geneva have likely been disappointed — or perhaps angry — to drive in and see a closed sign on the door.

The owner of both sites understands her customers’ frustration. However, she believes that anger should be directed at a different company, TOMRA, which has a contract to pick up cans and bottles regularly from her sites and other area redemption centers — but has not been doing so.

“Both of my stores have been closed temporarily due to TOMRA’s failure to pick up our loads on a regular basis as outlined in the (state) law. We are to be picked up at an agreed-upon interval, which for us is weekly and not to exceed 14 days,” Cathy Coon said in a recent email to the Times. “I have not had both of my stores fully picked up in the same week since mid-June. We cannot take in more until we get rid of and paid for our current load.”

She added: “Keep in mind that I am paying out (to customers) and depend on TOMRA to reimburse the initial deposit payouts, plus pay our handling fees. No pickup, no pay. I have had weeks with no pay, pay from a half load from one store, partial pay from two stores. I have kept my employees on, but can’t do much more.”

Coon said the Staples Redemption Center in Canandaigua has been closed due to the same issue, as well as D&M Grocery’s redemption center in Waterloo. The owner of Staples could not be reached for comment, but Shelly Mueller — who owns D&M with her husband, Steve — backed up Coon’s concerns.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: environment; ny; recycling; taxes
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Hmmm it has been my assertion that NYS doesn't want people to return the bottles/cans so they can keep the deposit money for their bankrupt coffers. TOMRA has been sued before oddly enough by certain counties in California.
1 posted on 08/09/2021 3:27:37 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU
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it has been my assertion that NYS doesn't want people to return the bottles/cans so they can keep the deposit money

We're talking about people who raise taxes & print money as needed so keeping deposit money is, well, akin to stealing hub caps.

2 posted on 08/09/2021 3:34:35 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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True but they’ll take any thing they can steal, errr “get.”


3 posted on 08/09/2021 3:38:56 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportiongte tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: AbolishCSEU

so much for the caring passionate green rats


4 posted on 08/09/2021 3:41:38 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (“When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have)
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If you call Tomra, you are subjected to an endless loop of “green” data as you are out on hold for ages.


5 posted on 08/09/2021 3:44:45 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportiongte tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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I see that TOMRA also owns those automated bottle returns. If you have ever used them they suck. Local supermarket has a bank of them and they only take one at a time and fill up before you can do a full garbage bag. I go to a local beer distributor that I guess is a redemption center and it takes minutes what would take an hour at the supermarket. I then always buy a case of beer from the distributor. I guess TOMRA is trying to force you to use their machines and NYS would prefer to keep the deposit. It was claimed the unused deposits would go to schools. (It’s for the children don’t you know?)

New York Downstater.


6 posted on 08/09/2021 3:50:19 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: AbolishCSEU

What world is this? LOL! I can’t relate to it at all, other than always being thankful I don’t live in any of the states listed on bottles and cans.


7 posted on 08/09/2021 4:11:00 AM PDT by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats liberals. )
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To: AbolishCSEU

For a lousy Nickle mine are tossed in the trash.


8 posted on 08/09/2021 4:13:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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Out the car window gives me greater pleasure.

Screw’em.


9 posted on 08/09/2021 4:21:13 AM PDT by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

NH hasn’t gotten a bottle bill through. Dems have tried to pass it multiple times. And doesn’t Massatwochits keep the return taxes too?


10 posted on 08/09/2021 4:51:37 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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All of Tomra’s drivers have gotten jobs with Amazon, which opend two huge centers in CNY.


11 posted on 08/09/2021 5:22:09 AM PDT by brianr10
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To: Vaquero

My wife insists we go to the recycling center. Rather than wait for them to count my bottles, I dump them on the table and tell them to donate the deposit.


12 posted on 08/09/2021 5:24:57 AM PDT by brianr10
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To: AbolishCSEU

New York is a cesspool of corruption. I’m sure Andy Cuomo is backing cleaning this up his top priority from jail.


13 posted on 08/09/2021 5:27:03 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Out the car window….

….so, you are creating jobs?


14 posted on 08/09/2021 5:41:01 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. )
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.so, you are creating jobs?

Chain gangs need something to keep them entertained when they aren't needing to swingblade. And when's the last time you saw a chain gang fixing potholes?

15 posted on 08/09/2021 6:06:47 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: AbolishCSEU

Thank God Texas abandoned that crap ages ago. When I was young, my folks owned a grocery store. Dealing with bottle returns was a pain.


16 posted on 08/09/2021 8:14:58 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: shoff

My sense has long been that the northeastern states gleefully pick the pockets of their citizens at every turn. Oh, and make it not just expensive, but a hassle too.


17 posted on 08/09/2021 9:39:35 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: shoff

Exactly. Firstly I have two full-time jobs so I don’t have time to stand around doing onesie twosie and then having the machine reject half of them. And secondly I will be damned if I let New York State keep the deposit they get enough of my money already.


18 posted on 08/09/2021 11:04:43 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportiongte tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: Vaquero

Hubby is a construction worker and drinks a lot of beer bottled water and soda. It is practically a small fortune every time I go.


19 posted on 08/09/2021 11:06:15 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportiongte tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: 1Old Pro

I doubt he will see any real jail time
#2tieredjustice


20 posted on 08/09/2021 11:07:36 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportiongte tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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