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The Manhattan Project's 'Martians' Didn't Look Like America
Jewish World Review ^ | 6 Aug2021 | Michael Barone

Posted on 08/06/2021 8:38:34 PM PDT by Rummyfan

The Manhattan Project didn't look like America. Undertaken today, it would be criticized for failing to meet diversity and inclusion guidelines. Today's human resources department professionals would be triggered if they looked at the list of physicists hired to produce what President Franklin Roosevelt was told could be a uranium-based bomb "with a destructiveness vastly greater than anything now known." They would be astounded that the president, in his haste to develop such a weapon, as he put it, "before Hitler got it," authorized the hiring of scientists without any attempt to match the diversity of the American population.

They would have noted that Leo Szilard, who drafted the letter signed by Albert Einstein that alerted Roosevelt to uranium's potential, was born a Hungarian Jew and was educated in the Realiskola, one of Budapest's elite high schools.

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Second greatest scientific and engineering achievement of the twentieth century... the first being the lunar program.

1 posted on 08/06/2021 8:38:34 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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The Manhattan was a brilliant effort, and humanity has it to thank for decades of dreary existences living under the constant shadow of nuclear annihilation.


2 posted on 08/06/2021 8:47:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Rummyfan

The Martians didn’t swim the Rio Grande or walk through an arroyo outside of Naco.

And there were plenty of Americans with PhDs at Los Alamos.

So this crap about “we are a nation of eemeegrants” is just that. When the Manhattan Project was undertaken immigration had been curtailed for 16 years and was locked to the 1890 Census ethnic proportions.

That particular mix resulted in a nation coming out of a depression producing hundreds of thousands of high performance aircraft, massive numbers of ships, tanks, artillery and vehicles, and of course something never before seen on earth...a mechanism which could tap the energy source of the very root of existence...the atom bomb.


3 posted on 08/06/2021 8:51:53 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: BenLurkin
The Manhattan was a brilliant effort, and humanity has it to thank for decades of dreary existences living under the constant shadow of nuclear annihilation.

There hasn't been a large scale mechanized world war since we cooked 145,000 Japs in WWII.

Glory be to the bomb.
4 posted on 08/06/2021 9:04:42 PM PDT by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: Rummyfan

The Gaussian distribution curve. The article uses this quite a bit. It shows the amount of events when something occurs randomly in nature.

5 posted on 08/06/2021 9:06:24 PM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: Rummyfan

Hitler drove out the Jews who came to the USA and some were part of the project. It was the Axis Power’s own d&%n fault. They were in a race with the Allies for this technology. BTW, Japan was working on a bomb themselves, so they were not innocent bystanders.


6 posted on 08/06/2021 9:07:21 PM PDT by packagingguy (Kit)
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If it had been Imperial Germany and the Habsburg Empire instead of the Nazis all those Martians would have been on the other side.


7 posted on 08/06/2021 9:12:52 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: packagingguy

I think that importation of scientists was called
Operation Paper Clip.


8 posted on 08/06/2021 9:27:34 PM PDT by lee martell
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‘Second greatest scientific and engineering achievement of the twentieth century... the first being the lunar program’

Thanks for the laugh.

P.s. most people don’t know there was a 2nd manhattan project which was initiated to mitigate the EU sponsored RoHS dendrites


9 posted on 08/06/2021 9:32:27 PM PDT by algore ( )
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Come-on man! Math is racist


10 posted on 08/06/2021 9:57:31 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: BenLurkin
The Manhattan was a brilliant effort, and humanity has it to thank for decades of dreary existences living under the constant shadow of nuclear annihilation.

Thank God we developed it first. If the Japanese and Germans had, the world we know today, would not exist.
I heard a rumor, that the night the Germans had their infamous book burning, they burned a bunch of technical books, that would have possibly helped the Germans get the bomb first.

11 posted on 08/06/2021 10:05:40 PM PDT by Mark17 (Air Traffic Controller, retired. Father of US Air Force 1st Lieutenant, and trained combat pilot )
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Thank God we developed it first. If the Japanese and Germans had, the world we know today, would not exist.

Given the current state of the world, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing. Things have gotten so upside-down, it’s probably better to rewind a few decades to find your reference point for “the world we know today.”

12 posted on 08/06/2021 10:22:27 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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An interesting read for someone maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_military_ballooning


13 posted on 08/06/2021 10:28:00 PM PDT by algore ( )
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The movie “Hidden Figures” was 100% fiction. The actual black lady who worked at NASA was a secondary checker. That is, the front people who were doing the computations would send their math to the checkers.

Now, that is a really important job. But she changed nothing. She led nothing. She was just a cog in the machine. A book about her work there would be 1 page long. A movie 1 minute at most.


14 posted on 08/06/2021 10:31:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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“Something in the environment in which their ancestors evolved”

That’s racissss!!


15 posted on 08/06/2021 10:49:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: BenLurkin

Without the Manhattan Project approximately 800,000 (that’s eight hundred thousand) American Military deaths were expected for the invasion of Japan, and about 5 to 10 million Japanese deaths were expected (both military and civilian) for completion of the operation.

MY Father would probably have been one of the American Deaths, and my Brothers Wife would probably have been one of the Japanese Deaths.

So shut your F#CKEN MOUTH, YOU IGNORANT ASHOLE


16 posted on 08/06/2021 10:54:47 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: BenLurkin

It was an inevitability of science that someone would’ve had the nuclear weapon. It did keep a lot of people in peril. It also kept the world from millions more dead on just the invasion of Japan. And even if that went through, we would’ve been WW3 conventionally with the Soviets by 1955 or so and untold 10’s of millions more dead.

The nuclear weapon has limited wars to proxy ones. Without them, we’d have so much worse overall.


17 posted on 08/06/2021 10:58:14 PM PDT by Catfan15
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To: noiseman
Given the current state of the world, I’m not sure that would be a bad thing. Things have gotten so upside-down, it’s probably better to rewind a few decades to find your reference point for “the world we know today.”

I thought about that too. I should have been more clear. The BS going on in the US and around the world, is not really what I had in mind. On the other hand, if the Germans and Japanese had nucs first, that would have been more than just a little bit of an unsatisfactory situation.

18 posted on 08/06/2021 11:27:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Air Traffic Controller, retired. Father of US Air Force 1st Lieutenant, and trained combat pilot )
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To: Regulator

I like and respect Mike Barone and his writings. A very nice man to talk to - intelligent yet humble.

However, the Manhattan Project and similar WW2 projects, in fact, even some Depression work programs, were based not on “immigration” into the US during the 1900’s, but on the fact that most immigrants into the US had a Western educational system in their home countries.

This is important as the “western cultures” had several advantages over parallel and earlier cultures, “western”, “eastern”, “Asian”, “African”, etc.

What we call “Western culture” arose from the ability to count, write, print/save writings and concepts so that they could be explored, tested, and revised throughout the time of the development of an advancing western culture’s educational and scientific discoveries centuries.

While the Chinese, Mayans and Arabians/Mohammedans/Moslems cultures all made independent findings in astronomy, engineering, and writing, none invented a viable printing press (all major writings were done by hand and copies took a long time to make for dissemination).

I climbed Temples 2 and 4 at Tikal which were made out of hand carved limestone and are fascinating works of handicrafting and engineering. The same for Arabian/Moslem architecture/buildings and writings (including some very advanced, for their time, educational systems), but they didn’t master the key metals used in building, iron/steel/aluminum etc.

The same for the magnificent pyramids of Egypt, buildings in Old Israel, Greece, now Bulgaria (new finds), China, Tibet, India and the wonders of Cambodia, among others.

However, they all faced the limitations of their know which made their types of construction limited in height and often in length. The cities of Europe which used iron as a basic structure metal, are still around and it is the United States that basically took building construction to new heights with new building techniques, materials, etc.

Just look at the Empire State Building, Hoover Dam, the old Golden Gate Bridge, now the Sears Tower, skyscrapers in our major cities, our road systems, etc. All developed with mainly western technology due to western education.

The few mud structures of note in sub-Saharan Africa were marvels for their times but limited in height due to the limited strengths of the materials their had.

The stonework of the Incas (Machu Pichu), Mayans - Tikal, Aztecs - Teoteochan - are magnificent but they represented the engineering limitations of their environment, available materials, and limited knowledge in metallurgy, stonemasonary (re tools), and advanced engineering.

Due to the old “universities and yeshivas” of the ancient Middle East”, education became much more institutionalized which allowed for many advances in the sciences that other cultures could make. The “monasteries” of the Middle East helped to preserve writings that were eventually PRINTED due to the invention of the printing press.

And then it was off to the races with the older cultures left behind at their environmental/educationally imposed limits.

The West, esp. America, made Steel ships and wiped wooden freighters and warships off the face of history when and where it counted. The same for the development of the airplane, rockets, trains, subway systems, cars, trucks, and motorcycles.

Most of the advanced medical equipment, theories, research, and inventions/medicines, have come from the West because of our education systems (no insult intended for the many discoveries of the Chinese, ancient Egyptians, and a few African kingdoms, but they pretty much had reached the limits of what they could due until the invention of the microscope, needles, vaccines, surgery equipment, etc).

The Manhattan Project brought together the best of Western Culture (many in exile from Nazi Germany and Nazi-occupied Hungary, etc). I don’t think any other existing culture could have done what Gen. Groves and his people did, and in the time frame in which it was done.

Give a hattip to Pres. Trump for mobilizing America’s great medical system, equipment and personnel to create a basic COVID vaccine in less than a year. This was the new “Manhattan Project” of the 21st century.

We should be proud of what we have done and can do, if we can unite Americans again to work for our continued safe existence.


19 posted on 08/07/2021 12:39:41 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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actually it is the graphic representation of the distribution of sample means. No raw data ever fits this curve.


20 posted on 08/07/2021 3:18:21 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard (resist the narrative. .)
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