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A last word of caution to all those pretending the Covid-19 pandemic is toning down
www.geertvandenbossche.org ^ | Jul 26 2021 | geertvandenbossche

Posted on 08/05/2021 1:19:19 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population.

The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population.

On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population. Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!).

It is critical to understand that a rapid decline in viral infectivity rates that is not achieved by natural infection but merely results from expedited mass vaccination campaigns will only delay abrupt propagation of emerging, fully vaccine-resistant viral variants and hence, only delay the occurrence of a high wave of morbidity and mortality

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1 posted on 08/05/2021 1:19:19 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Love that movie.


2 posted on 08/05/2021 1:21:45 PM PDT by LIConFem (Read up on Russia's Oct, 1917 Revolution... And prepare.)
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3 posted on 08/05/2021 1:23:21 PM PDT by USMC79to83
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To: RomanSoldier19

But continue pretending men can be women.


4 posted on 08/05/2021 1:25:12 PM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

we wouldn’t have SARS-COV2 if criminal Fauci had not funded gain-of-function research to the tune of 191 billion.


5 posted on 08/05/2021 1:25:32 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: RomanSoldier19

People need to stop being selfish and start caring about keeping others safe.

Stop driving autos—they are killers!


6 posted on 08/05/2021 1:28:29 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Is HCQ, Ivermectin, Quercitin prophylaxis still effective?


7 posted on 08/05/2021 1:28:59 PM PDT by brianr10
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To: Robert DeLong

Someone should ask fouci if gain of function research is still worth the risk.


8 posted on 08/05/2021 1:29:59 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
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To: RomanSoldier19
So we've created 'vaccines" that essentially cause the virus(s) to muttatte into better, vaccine resistant strains. And the mass vaccination course we seem to be on is only aceleratting the process.

Neato, peachy-keen...
9 posted on 08/05/2021 1:30:31 PM PDT by LIConFem (Read up on Russia's Oct, 1917 Revolution... And prepare.)
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To: USMC79to83

I agree. Total BS which will be eagerly consumed by the weak minded non critical thinkers.

In the UK the cases are “unexpectedly” plummiting as reported about a week ago and now suddenly that story has gone away.

After all the misinformation (lies) coming out of the Governments I simply refuse to believe the fear porn any longer.


10 posted on 08/05/2021 1:31:25 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: LIConFem

Bingo. The jabbed are putting the non jabbed at risk.


11 posted on 08/05/2021 1:33:22 PM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Si vis pacem, para bellum. )
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To: cgbg
People need to stop being selfish and start caring about keeping others safe.

Since most deaths occur with co-morbities, expecially obesity, every fast food restaurant should immediately be closed for good.

12 posted on 08/05/2021 1:48:49 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Andromeda Strain - Great movie, but probably too cerebral and “slow moving” for the denizens of today’s idiocracy.

I just watched a two hour interview last night with Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche on Dr. Brett Weinstein’s YouTube channel. Really excellent and illuminating. What he talked about, which is somewhat discussed above, is his concern that by trying to vaccinate everyone during the height of a pandemic, and with vaccines that are “leaky” (they don’t kill all of the virus, only about 50% or so), we are going to cause these viruses to be exposed to vaccine but not be killed off. That will naturally give these viruses exposure to the vaccine, which provides the “pressure” that causes them to mutate and adapt to become immune to the vaccine. He said that if we were going to try mass vaccination, which he didn’t really think was the best approach, that the time to do it would have been when the virus first emerged and was composed of a single strain. In that scenario, you would stand a good chance of killing it off since the vaccine is designed to attack the original version of the virus. The problem now is that the virus is everywhere, and there are many rapidly changing strains, yet the vaccine pushers are hell-bent to try to fight it with a vaccine that is no longer a good match for the current strains.

Brett Weinstein had a great analogy. He said that the antibodies produced by vaccines are kind of like soldiers that you’re training to fight. If you first send those soldiers to boot camp, to train them in how to identify the enemy and how to fight the enemy if encountered, then when they arrive at the front they will be well-prepared for battle. But, if you instead just toss those green troops into the heat of battle at the front lines without any preparation, they will quickly get overwhelmed and killed off.

In a similar way, what we have done with the vaccines is wait until the enemy (virus) is everywhere and even has various forms of camouflage, and then we’ve tossed the vaccine-trained antibodies at them, with no training. Well, since the antibodies have only been “trained” against one form of the virus (the original “Alpha” strain), and not even the entire virus but just a component of it, the spike protein, they stand no chance against all of the very different-looking variation that have sprung up. In fact, the antibodies might not even be able to detect some strains because they have mutated in such a way that they are essentially “camouflaged” from them.

Dr. Vanden Bossche’s greatest fear, though, is that since the vaccines only create antibodies that are very narrowly-focused, just designed to attack the Alpha variant spike protein, and bind to the spike protein to prevent entry into the cell, they essentially block our natural antibodies from binding to the cell. The problem with this is that a portion of those natural antibodies are part of our “innate immune system”, and those particular antibodies are programmed from before birth to be able to attack ANY antigen that they encounter, even if they’ve never seen it before. They are thus a crucial component of our immune system’s natural ability to destroy the SARS CoV-2 virus. But the stupid vaccine-generated one-dimensional antibodies get in the way of this process. This creates the double whammy of blocking our natural defenses at the same time that the vaccines are becoming less and less effective and are actually spawning new, more infectious varieties of the virus.

It’s a true nightmare scenario; Ineffective, eventually completely impotent vaccines that eventually won’t be able to do anything to the virus, but which nevertheless are blocking our natural immunity. Both men at that point wrestled with the question of “Well, what do we do then?”, but they basically threw their hands up and had no answers. The only thing they could come up with was just continuing to develop stronger and stronger vaccines, that will likely come with even worse side effects, and which will themselves eventually be outsmarted by new strains of the virus. Weinstein said that because of our foolish decision to try to vaccinate everyone, we have essentially kicked off an arms race with the virus that has no foreseeable end. I can imagine that such a scenario delights Leftist Democrats.

Another startling fact that Dr. Vanden Bossche mentioned was that the 1918 Spanish Flu had NO VARIANTS. That’s right, during the very deadly Spanish Flu pandemic, in which everyone was an evil unvaxxed “vaccine denier” (simply because there were no vaccines), there was never more than the single, original strain. The result, though there were certainly many deaths, was that that pandemic was over with in a little over a year, and the virus completely disappeared. No mask mandates, no forced vaccinations, nothing except some common sense.

But, our betters have decided that every single death must be prevented at any cost, so as a result they’ve gone down the road of a vast, unprecedented medical experiment that is likely to prolong the pandemic for many years to come, and which will most certainly end up killing far more than would have died if they had simply done nothing other than a few common sense measures.

13 posted on 08/05/2021 2:05:56 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: LIConFem
So we've created 'vaccines" that essentially cause the virus(s) to muttatte into better, vaccine resistant strains. And the mass vaccination course we seem to be on is only aceleratting the process.

It’s far worse even than that. See my previous (very long) post.

14 posted on 08/05/2021 2:07:22 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

Then why aren’t we all dropping dead from polio, measles, mumps, rubella, small pox....


15 posted on 08/05/2021 2:27:56 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: RomanSoldier19
Does he explain how immunity escaping variants occur in vaccinated people but not in people with natural immunity?/ Is there something about vaccine-induced immunity that makes it easier for a variant to evade?

From what I've read, it's pretty much the same thing. Escape mutations will evade all types of immunity, natural or artificial.

16 posted on 08/05/2021 2:29:43 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: noiseman
To save time for those who may not want to read my previous long post, in an interview Dr. Vanden Bossche said not only that the vaccines appear to be spawning vaccine-resistant variants, but that they are also generating increasingly ineffective antibodies, that then bind to the spike protein and block out our innate, natural antibodies from taking action. So if his theory is right, the vaccines will continue to get weaker until they quit working entirely, while simultaneously blocking the body’s natural immune response.

That sounds like a recipe to make people entirely dependent upon vaccines forever, vaccines that will periodically have to be updated to chase the latest variant(s). I can’t think of much that would give government more totalitarian control over people than that. “Oh, you don’t agree with the latest imperial dictate?…Well then, no vaccine booster for you. Good luck to you and your crippled immune system.”

17 posted on 08/05/2021 2:31:12 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman
with vaccines that are “leaky” (they don’t kill all of the virus, only about 50% or so), we are going to cause these viruses to be exposed to vaccine but not be killed off.

What's the rate at which natural immunity kills off the virus?

18 posted on 08/05/2021 2:31:21 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: noiseman
ust designed to attack the Alpha variant spike protein, and bind to the spike protein to prevent entry into the cell, they essentially block our natural antibodies from binding to the cell.

This part : bind to the spike protein to prevent entry into the cell sort of makes sense. The rest doesn't jive.

19 posted on 08/05/2021 2:36:11 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: noiseman
But, our betters have decided that every single death must be prevented at any cost, so as a result they’ve gone down the road of a vast, unprecedented medical experiment

Nah…planned depopulation strategy. Classic herding maneuver to inflict maximum casualties through vaccination. Question is…how are the vaccines killing us? ADE? Spike protein organ failure? Other?
20 posted on 08/05/2021 2:37:05 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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