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Are Vaccines Driving the Surge in New COVID Infections?
Children’s Health Defense ^ | 8-4-21 | Marcos Caseras

Posted on 08/04/2021 3:42:02 PM PDT by Meah

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To: BiglyCommentary

Thank you, I appreciate it.


41 posted on 08/04/2021 5:33:26 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Not all viruses have the propensity to mutate rapidly that coronaviruses do.


42 posted on 08/04/2021 5:41:15 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: goodnesswins

You are most welcome my FRiend. I hope it sheds a touch of light on this mess we have before us.

As a side note, I personally believe the human immune system is one of Gods greatest gifts given to us. It is so unbelievably intricate, so unbelievably powerful, and we should tread lightly when we think we have come up with a way to make it better. Doubly so when our idea involves tricking our cells into creating parts of the virus, spike protein in this instance.


43 posted on 08/04/2021 5:41:43 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Where did you get your epidemiology PhD, perfesser

More importantly, when did you become a Karen?

44 posted on 08/04/2021 5:49:33 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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To: Jane Long

Thanks Jane. I’m just a poor ole country boy, but I have always enjoyed reading and chasing knowledge, knowledge passed down from people much greater than I.

What is that ole saying? “If I see so far, it is only because I stand on the shoulders of the giants that came before me.”


45 posted on 08/04/2021 5:50:39 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

You have puny little men with sophomoric arrogance messing with something way beyond their full understanding.


46 posted on 08/04/2021 6:00:02 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: walkingdead

We press a coronavirus (notorious mutator) with very narrow pressure (single spike protein narrow) and we wonder whether it drove the mutations?

Indeed. Covid is in the coronavirus “family” and like all coronavirus it is RNA based. RNA based viruses replicate less precisely than DNA giving rise to numerous mutations / variants. It’s random. Most mutations fail.

But the variants that survive and thrive tend to then be the ones that replicate more. Look how rapidly Delta became the predominate strain. The more a given strain evades the vaccines, the more successful it becomes.

Anyone trying to create a durable effective vaccine is in an arms race with an enemy that keeps changing form to evade the antibodies. Not with any mindful deliberation, but simply thru random chance.


47 posted on 08/04/2021 6:02:08 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

So very true. Our understanding of the human immune system is certainly not total. Now add in the law of unintended consequences, and you have a recipe for disaster.


48 posted on 08/04/2021 6:05:53 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

This whole thing reminds me of the early 80’s with AIDS. They pushed AZT and then a year or two later realized it was killing people. Magic Johnson had great advisers and said NO, and he’s still alive today.


49 posted on 08/04/2021 6:06:34 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Flick Lives

Well said Flick, well said.


50 posted on 08/04/2021 6:07:01 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: walkingdead

As a side note, I personally believe the human immune system is one of Gods greatest gifts given to us. It is so unbelievably intricate, so unbelievably powerful, and we should tread lightly when we think we have come up with a way to make it better.

Why, it’s almost as if the Great Maker knows more than Man!

It is a miraculous system we only barely understand.


51 posted on 08/04/2021 6:10:08 PM PDT by Flick Lives (We may or may not have reached herd immunity, but we've definitely achieved herd stupidity.)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Wow, I did not know about the Magic Johnson thing. Man I love this site, learn something new everyday. Thanks for that. And yes, we will not know the full effects of our actions for quite some time. I sure hope this massive human trial fairs better than all trials before it.


52 posted on 08/04/2021 6:10:18 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: Meah

The “vaccines” are working. They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu. Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria and drop their precautions thus get the flu and help reach herd immunity. The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.


53 posted on 08/04/2021 6:12:53 PM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Flick Lives

“Why, it’s almost as if the Great Maker knows more than Man!“

That was only true in the old days. Now we are so great that we are overqualified for the great maker position. We know much better! Lol


54 posted on 08/04/2021 6:15:07 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: Meah

The Great Vaccine Pandemic of 2021


55 posted on 08/04/2021 6:23:34 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Jane Long
"You sound like you’re on the wrong forum, jon rick."

I can imagine the forum you may be thinking about. LOL! Yes, I may be sick. I used the word "spanked" to suggest total humiliation. I wanted you to imagine the humiliation aspect without me going into the details--whips, black leather, etc. I think harsh torture rather than a quick lead injection for the negligence would be more satisfying. Make them sqeeeeeeel like piggies to the tune of "Dueling Banjos!"

56 posted on 08/04/2021 6:36:06 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Whatever you say, Comrade.


57 posted on 08/04/2021 6:40:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: JayAr36

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqi6gU6GljU


58 posted on 08/04/2021 6:45:02 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: Meah

Another round of embarrassing stupidity from “Children’s Health Defense.”

Variants can arise any time a virus replicates. When someone is infected their body is turned into a virus making factory. Viruses do not reproduce themselves - the cells of the host they infect does - viruses inject their genetics into cells, which in turn programs the cells to produce viruses.

An infected person will produce many billions of viruses. It only takes one of the billion to have a mutation and then escape to infect another host to produce a variant. Therefore, it is no wonder the variants have first emerged from places where the virus was spreading the most quickly and there were fewer vaccinations. The Delta variant from India, for example.


59 posted on 08/04/2021 7:00:29 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Meah

Vaccines give you Covid to create antibodies with some therapeutics tossed in.


60 posted on 08/04/2021 7:08:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican Party is DEAD! It took 160 years but The Whigs Struck Back!)
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