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Infrastructure Bill Contains Pilot MBUF (Mileage Tax)-Goal Is Make It Too Expensive To Drive
The Lid ^ | Aug 2, 2021 | Joe Newby And Jeff Dunetz

Posted on 08/03/2021 9:10:23 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

Sounds good to me. Let Democrats piss off every single American at the gas pump and when food skyrockets due to transportation costs. Let’s Get It On !


61 posted on 08/03/2021 10:25:16 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: george76

Bookmark


62 posted on 08/03/2021 10:25:53 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: george76

No mention in the article of the fact that current highway funding is based on the federal tax imposed at the pump on fuel sales. More fuel efficient vehicles (desirable) equals less revenue for highway construction/repairs (undesirable). With an ultimate goal of switching to all electric cars for most private users (they still have to figure out how to make the logistics of this switch work), further declines in fuel sales means further loses in needed revenue.

Highways, roads, bridges are infrastructure in the truest sense of the word; they are there for everyone’s’ use. And whether an individual uses them a lot or just a little bit, all users want and expect them to be safe and accessible. So, some more modern method of assessing the use tax needed to fund their construction and maintenance has to be developed.

All this provision does is allocate a pretty small amount of funding over a couple of years to figure out how to do this using sampling in all 50 states and a willing group of volunteers to test and report on various data collection approaches and technologies. In other words, they want input from actual users over a broad range of situations and use profiles so that the solutions deployed are implementable and cause the least burden to the users of the utility.

Gee…actually assess the change and figure out the solution before the growing problem becomes a full blown crisis as opposed to the usual approach of “kick- the-can-down-the-road-for-as-long-as-possible-then-complain-about-people-yelling-at-you-while-trying-one-poorly-thought-out-solution-after-another-until-something-sort-of-works”.

Yep. There’s got to be something evil afoot here.


63 posted on 08/03/2021 10:34:21 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: RightFighter

We do. Both State and Federal Governments charge a fuel tax.


64 posted on 08/03/2021 10:35:09 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: george76

My. It has been a very long time since I heard from “The Lid”.


65 posted on 08/03/2021 10:36:03 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: MHT

So you like totalitarianism as long as it makes you happy?

That makes you more despicable than they are.


66 posted on 08/03/2021 10:39:08 AM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: MHT

This is Free Republic. You want the Democrat Underground.


67 posted on 08/03/2021 10:43:07 AM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: george76
so-called bipartisan (but really liberal)

You still think the GOP is on your side?

68 posted on 08/03/2021 10:44:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: george76

What happens to the state and federal gas tax charges? Tax on top of tax! Governments have been overthrown for less.


69 posted on 08/03/2021 10:51:53 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Obadiah
Or force you into an electric vehicle.

This is the case in China. The reason China is leading in EV sales? Because there are extremely high registration costs for gas cars, expensive tolls on roads for gas cars (EV exemptions), and gas cars are forbidden from entering downtown areas of cities while EV's are exempt. Only the rich in China buy gas cars, and even then will buy an EV to get into cities. All government mandated. Coming to the U.S.A. because of democrats.

70 posted on 08/03/2021 11:06:34 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: VTenigma
Orwell was not creative enough.

He was a prophet, but his time was limited. He did a lot, and wrote a lot, but died early at the age of 46.

71 posted on 08/03/2021 11:06:45 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: roadcat

From what I’ve read, China is building hundreds of coal fired power plants to service electric cars, and conserving petroleum for their military.


72 posted on 08/03/2021 11:07:59 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: RightFighter

The problem with ELECTRIC vehicles is there is no current method to tax them based on their usage of the roads.

We currently have state and federal taxes per gallon of gasoline or diesel fuel. Technically if you are putting diesel in your farm tractor you do not have to pay a highway tax because you are not driving it on the road typically. This is similar to commercial fisherman can purchase commercial diesel to power their boats/ships. Pleasure boats are not allowed to burn commercial diesel.

However, IF you drive an electric car there is no method to tax that vehicles usage of the state/interstate highway system other than the tax/kilowatt.
That is a problem for the government IF we start having an increasing percentage of people driving electric automobiles and tractor trailers.

Its all about the Benjamins.


73 posted on 08/03/2021 11:10:59 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: MHT

Those of us that are rural would be affected the most and we don’t have many vehicles on the road. It’s 20 miles to the nearest grocery store, gas station or place to work for us. Some people live a little further out and commute 50 miles round trip 5 days a week. That’s 250 miles a week just to commute.

So we should be punished so that you can have less traffic in the busy place you live?


74 posted on 08/03/2021 11:23:26 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: MHT

If this takes some people off the road, it may not be too bad. Our roads are in bad shape and are overcrowded. Fewer cars on the road when I am wouldn’t hurt my feelings.


Seriously?!?!

Rather surprising post from one of the FR “Seniors”


75 posted on 08/03/2021 11:28:56 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: roadcat
Bingo! You've hit exactly what other responders have missed. Yes, I understand that EVs can be taxed per mile too, but if gas vehicles auger two, three, or four times the tax rate as EVs, then tell me how this isn't coercive. And I would be my last dollar that is exactly what they have got up their sleeves.
76 posted on 08/03/2021 11:33:55 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: markman46

Sooo you support this?!?!


77 posted on 08/03/2021 11:35:20 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: george76

They, who have chauffeurs and government cars, want to make it impossible for the ordinary herd to have a personal car.


78 posted on 08/03/2021 11:38:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (To find out who really rules you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize. Voltaire. )
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To: unixfox

If its gonna be too expensive to drive, then why do we need billions for roads and bridges?


Step back and look at what you posted....

“We” won’t need billions for road repairs.

“They” want good road so their Tesla’s don’t damage their axles...

The friends of “they” get the “infrastructure” contracts and can then donate back to “they.”

OOPs...Did I just post this? Deep State truly I don’t mean it...


79 posted on 08/03/2021 11:42:41 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: Obadiah
Or force you into an electric vehicle.

Currently electric vehicles pay no gasoline taxes that are used too finance roads and highways, how do you suppose they will recoup those taxes? I have pointed that out here for a very long time. Milage tax is coming and we are powerless to stop it.

80 posted on 08/03/2021 12:08:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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