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We have to break through that wall’: inside America’s battle for gun control (barf alert)
The Guardian ^ | 2 aug 2021

Posted on 08/02/2021 5:09:04 AM PDT by rellimpank

The modern iteration of the National Rifle Association as a political force opposed to any measure of gun safety was familiar to Fred Guttenberg even before his 14-year-old daughter, Jaime, was killed along with 16 others at Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school in Parkland, Florida, on 14 February 2018.

The group’s response to Parkland was the same as after 26 people, including 20 children, were killed at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, the same as after the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, after Sutherland Springs, after Pulse Nightclub, amid gun violence that claims 100 lives a day in the US: the only solution to gun violence is more guns, everywhere. Or, to quote the NRA’s longtime executive vice-president, Wayne LaPierre, following Sandy Hook: “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

The day after his daughter was killed, a distraught Guttenberg attempted to put words to the unfathomable at a vigil. “My job is to protect my children,” he said, voice cracking, “and I sent my kid to school,” where Jaime was supposed to be safe.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; rkba
--the enemy speaks--
1 posted on 08/02/2021 5:09:04 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

—and—

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/grandmas-buying-shotguns-us-dealers-see-ammunition-shortage-as-sales-surge/ar-AAMQ42g?ocid=msedgntp


2 posted on 08/02/2021 5:14:57 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

Just another brick in the wall.....


3 posted on 08/02/2021 5:18:05 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: rellimpank

The Enemy has been speaking for gun control since 1962.

The lies we have been told over the years...
1962 We ONLY want to register handguns. Rifles will not be affected!
1964, We ONLY want to register ALL firearms, not ban them.
1968 We ONLY want to register all guns, and ban the import of foreign Saturday Night Specials, and 5-shot bolt action army surplus rifles! (they got the ban).
1970, We ONLY want to ban small American handguns. Rifles will not be affected!
1976 We ONLY want to ban ALL handguns! Rifles will not be affected!
1981, Actress Lee Grant on GMA screams...”THE NRA IS A RIFLE ORGANIZATION! THEY SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR HANDGUNS AND THEY CAN KEEP THEIR RIFLES!”
1984, they made a grab for the rifles, and missed, but played their hand.
1988,Josh Sugarmann, of the National Council to Ban Handguns tells how to ban rifles.

“Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over
fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons
—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine
gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on
these weapons.”
– Josh Sugarmann
Gun owners now know that any time we negotiate with those who want to ban guns, we are up against a stacked deck.

I just watched an old movie from the past. IS PARIS BURNING?(1966) After seeing it you will NEVER want gun control!


4 posted on 08/02/2021 5:18:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: rellimpank
The Guardian has been reliably spouting far-left idiocy for decades.

The left's public stance on guns is a simple truism: If you have no guns, no crime will be committed with guns.

Of course, the same holds true for rocks, knives, hands and feet.

Guns are a 500 year old technology which is here to stay.

The number of legal guns has no relationship to the number of murders or illegal guns; the number of illegal guns likewise has no relationship to the number of murders.

Those on the left, when they have brief moments of honesty, admit the purpose of reducing the number of legal guns is to increase government power.

The left hates any restraint on government power with a passion.

5 posted on 08/02/2021 5:24:01 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: rellimpank

M-hmmmm.


6 posted on 08/02/2021 5:41:04 AM PDT by sauropod (Amateurs built the ark; Professionals built the Titanic. Anon)
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To: rellimpank
“My job is to protect my children,” he said, voice cracking, “and I sent my kid to school,” where Jaime was supposed to be safe.

If the government: Board of Education, county sheriff and child protective services had done their job, you kid would still be alive.

Nikolas Cruz killed those children, NOT the NRA.

It's sad, and I feel for you. But me giving up my guns won't solve a thing but make me more vulnerable to real criminals and psychos.

7 posted on 08/02/2021 5:57:13 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: rellimpank
For Your Consideration

...and


8 posted on 08/02/2021 5:58:01 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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To: rellimpank

Wait ‘till they see what’s on the other side of that wall.....gonna be a crash course in firepower.


9 posted on 08/02/2021 6:03:02 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: rellimpank

Here is a question we should all ask anyone we know that advocates no guns. “Are you willing to personally come take them from me, or do you just want someone else’s son or daughter to do it for you?”


10 posted on 08/02/2021 6:11:22 AM PDT by Turbo Pig ('to close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: rellimpank

I’ll turn in my guns the day after all the soldiers, policemen, and other assorted government agents turn in theirs.


11 posted on 08/02/2021 6:38:07 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"I’ll turn in my guns the day after all the soldiers, policemen, and other assorted government agents turn in theirs."

I don't ever plan to turn mine in. Ever!

12 posted on 08/02/2021 6:40:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: rellimpank

Registered democrats,illegals and or criminals should not possess firearms..?


13 posted on 08/02/2021 6:44:19 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Well, neither do I. The “day after” those stooges turn in their guns, is of course, never going to happen.


14 posted on 08/02/2021 7:12:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: marktwain
the number of illegal guns likewise has no relationship to the number of murders.

However, as the number of illegal aliens has increased over the decades, so has the number of murders (I think).

15 posted on 08/02/2021 7:18:17 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: budj

Good poster, and spot on. The death count under Mao is short by 30 million (s/b 50 million) from what I’ve read. Of course, what’s a few million dead when you’re building utopia.


16 posted on 08/02/2021 7:52:17 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. NO, RECAPTCHA, I'M NOT A ROBOT!!! DIE YOU TIME WASTING SCUM.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I don't ever plan to turn mine in. Ever!

I'll turn over my current firearms the very day plasma rifles make the scene. Waiting.......

17 posted on 08/02/2021 8:18:08 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (When everyone is an expert, no one is.)
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To: BlackbirdSST
"I'll turn over my current firearms the very day plasma rifles make the scene. Waiting......."

Why not both..??

18 posted on 08/02/2021 8:50:59 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: BlackbirdSST
I'll turn over my current firearms the very day plasma rifles make the scene. Waiting.......

And not a day before they've advanced to be in the 40-watt range.

19 posted on 08/02/2021 9:07:41 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO )
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To: scott7278

Agreed, and a friend is also looking at various calibers of shotguns (esp on the AR platform)


20 posted on 08/11/2021 7:23:15 PM PDT by Conservative4Life (thy merchants were great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Rev18:23)
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