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Hasty about-face distorts Delta force
New York Post ^ | July 31, 2021 | Joel Zinberg

Posted on 08/01/2021 6:30:29 AM PDT by karpov

The CDC now urges public indoor masking after a worrisome study on the Delta variant — undermining the vaccine effort.

We finally know what drove the CDC to revise its guidance days ago without explanation to recommend that fully vaccinated individuals wear masks in public indoor settings in areas of the country with high or substantial COVID-19 transmission. The Washington Post released a July 29 CDC slide presentation, and the CDC confirmed that one of the unpublished studies cited was pivotal in its decision.

The slides largely just confirm what was already known: The Delta variant is more contagious than earlier variants.

Two of the slides suggest people with breakthrough Delta infections can spread the virus to others, leading to the claim vaccinated people must wear masks. In fact, a nonpeer-reviewed, preprint study claimed that breakthrough Delta infections are more transmissible than breakthrough infections from other variants. It examined breakthrough infections in 100 Indian health-care workers and found higher viral loads in Delta infections compared with non-Delta infections, leading to increased transmission. But — some say crucially — this small study used an Indian version of the AstraZeneca vaccine which is not used in the US. It may have limited relevance to the mRNA vaccines used here.

The slides also reported unpublished data, now updated by the CDC, that convinced the agency to take action: 74 percent of the 469 cases in an outbreak in Barnstable County, Mass., following the July 4 weekend were in vaccinated people and most showed symptoms. Among cases who had genomic sequencing and viral load determinations, there was no difference in Delta viral load between 127 vaccinated cases and 84 unvaccinated cases. This suggests Delta breakthrough cases pose as high a transmission risk as regular Delta cases, which is higher than other variants.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barnstable; breakthrough; covid; delta; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; massachusetts; provincetown; vaxxedsuperspreaders; viralload
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To: canuck_conservative

The whole medical profession…anyone with Dr will be questioned now


21 posted on 08/01/2021 7:11:20 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Obadiah
Related FR thread from a couple of weeks ago...

Summer hotspot Provincetown issues face mask advisory after new COVID outbreak

22 posted on 08/01/2021 7:12:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Hojczyk

Thanks to Deep State and Big Med, the US now has a de facto NHS.

And while ours is still better than the UK’s, it won’t be for long.


23 posted on 08/01/2021 7:14:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: karpov
Still more here...

Provincetown to implement indoor mask mandate as COVID cluster has impacted 551 people in multiple states

Researchers Warn of Heightened Risk of HIV With Certain COVID-19 Vaccines

24 posted on 08/01/2021 7:17:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: G Larry
There ARE NO TESTS to differentiate the Delta from any other Covid virus!!!

“CDC urges labs to use COVID tests that can differentiate from flu.” Millions of people who had the flu were told that they had Covid. But the defective test which has had it's emergency use authorization terminated, known to have a false positive rate of 90% or more, will still be in use until the end of the year.

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-urges-labs-covid-tests-025958593.html

The entire situation has been a farce from day 1. The statistics on deaths has been inflated by several times. The statistics on hospitalizations have been inflated by several times. And worst of all are the statistics on "new cases". To top it off experimental vaccines being forced on the public are causing more death and injury than all other vaccines combined since the VAERS program was started over 30 years ago... and they do not work well as the new CDC mask recommendations for the vaccinated demonstrate clearly.

25 posted on 08/01/2021 7:20:09 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: skimbell
Yeah, but I bet that that party was really something to see

I'm thinking it was the kind of party we DON'T WANT to ever see

But seriously ... CDC is making major decisions that impact the whole country, based on one tiny study that hasn't even been peer-reviewed yet?

The desperation level here to keep the Covid Panic going is off the charts!!


26 posted on 08/01/2021 7:20:56 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: karpov
"But — some say crucially — this small study used an Indian version of the AstraZeneca vaccine which is not used in the US. It may have limited relevance to the mRNA vaccines used here."

Ok. Although the study was with regards to AstraZeneca, the next question is: the Delta breahtrough occurred in the US, among a population "vaccinated" at 95%. Were they also "vaccinated" with AstraZeneca, J&J, Pfizer, or Moderna? If the latter two, then there is relevance.

An as an aside, I'm old enough to see the same BS regarding the tiptoeing around mentioning a certain community who, through its at risk behaviors, was the primary transmission vector for HIV in the mid to late 1980s.

27 posted on 08/01/2021 7:24:15 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: canuck_conservative

“ So just because some partying homosexuals with HIV easily caught the virus, now we ALL have to wear masks?”

BINGO!!!!! THAT is what all of this has always been about! Not so much the diabetics, or the obese or elderly.

We were all going to get AIDS, remember? Now that a drug cocktail makes HIV undetectable, they go right back to their nasty habits. Until now when anyone can cause them serious illness or death with a virus that is otherwise at worst mostly just a very bad cold for normal people. Nope, can’t say that. It can kill EVERYONE.


28 posted on 08/01/2021 7:26:28 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: G Larry

The CDC claims it is sampling with an internal test, but it’s true there is no purchasable test yet for Delta.


29 posted on 08/01/2021 7:39:00 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: karpov

” I bet most Americans don’t know Provincetown is a big destination for male homosexuals.”

It’s just Fabulous this time of the year.


30 posted on 08/01/2021 7:41:24 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

“”

That was Fauci, too. Yup.


31 posted on 08/01/2021 7:42:50 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: karpov; logi_cal869

“The author knows the covid outbreak occurred among male homosexuals, as discussed in FR threads, but the reader has to be sharp to notice. He just refers to “public events marketed to adult men”.

The Hidden Side of the CDC’s Delta Study and Media Reports

Posted on 7/31/2021, 7:48:46 AM by logi_cal869

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3980876/posts

CDC Releases Report Confirming Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual People at Greater Risk of COVID-19 Illness, Calls for More Data Collection

https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/cdc-releases-report-confirming-lesbian-gay-and-bisexual-people-at-greater-risk-of-covid-19-illness-calls-for-more-data-collection


32 posted on 08/01/2021 7:52:48 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

“In plain English, a convocation of fudge-packers.”

Ditto. Digestive exposure doesn’t force viruses to develop methods to survive air. Evolution relies on male homosexuals to transmit deadly epidemics through digestive exposure.


33 posted on 08/01/2021 7:54:28 AM PDT by nagant
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To: canuck_conservative

34 posted on 08/01/2021 8:11:36 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: binreadin

It’s also the promiscuity, which is a big part of the homosexual “lifestyle.” That, and the effect on the immune system of drug use and repeated infection.


35 posted on 08/01/2021 8:22:43 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: karpov

For about two months after vaccination and reopening, I felt I could tell if Covid was present in a building.

I no longer feel I can.

I believe exposure rounds out and builds up immunity.


36 posted on 08/01/2021 8:34:55 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: karpov; Grampa Dave

The ongoing gaslighting about Delta is both disturbing, and illuminating.

As well, it’s clear that even the NYP dismisses basic journalistic integrity - as aptly cited by you, Grampa Dave, myself & others - in ignoring the fact that the CDC is conveying the high risk activities of a fractional demographic upon the whole of the population to measure risk to general health by this relatively benign viral mutation.

It’s a shocking elevation in propaganda pursuant to the nonsensical goal of “100% inoculation” by the experimental jabs when the virus poses a statistical ZERO risk of death to those under 50.

Few are asking “Why?” and the so-called ‘vaxxers’ are exposing themselves as closet progressives who hypocritically support tyrannical actions while professing conservative lip service to ‘fit in’.

Thanks for posting.

And, all things being equal, one or more trolls will see my comment & once again modify my words to stifle discourse, just like the libs they pretend to oppose.


37 posted on 08/01/2021 8:36:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: karpov

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“Order test”

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Posted for the purposes of discussion only. I’ve not researched the subject well enough for any endorsement.


38 posted on 08/01/2021 8:44:08 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: logi_cal869

Thank you for alerting us to the reality of a segment of the gay population in one city/area being the so called new epidemic.


39 posted on 08/01/2021 8:49:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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To: mewzilla

Thanks for your posts highlighting the reality of the new Gay breakout in one area/city.


40 posted on 08/01/2021 8:50:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
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