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Mass vaccination during pandemic historical blunder: Nobel laureate
https://telanganatoday.com/ ^ | 25th May 2021 | IANS

Posted on 07/30/2021 7:38:29 PM PDT by fr_freak

New Delhi: French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease, LifeSite News reported.

“It”s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation US.

“The history books will show that, because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” the report said. Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ade; covid; covid19; covidbs; echochamber; everheardofmeasles; everheardofmumps; everheardofpolio; luc; lucmontagnier; massvaccination; montagnier; pandemic; vaccine; vaccines; variants
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To: onceone

“… India started vaccinations in Jan. Delta appeared in Feb...”
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You’re correct, read my #40.


41 posted on 07/31/2021 12:23:36 AM PDT by BlueHorseShoe
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To: TTFX

Contagion =/= lethality

Is delta more contagious? Sure. Maybe.

Is it as lethal as the alpha or ancestral varieties? Statistically speaking, no way.


42 posted on 07/31/2021 3:11:06 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

It will never be gone and you know that. It will mutate and circle the globe forever.
Remnants of the Spanish flu are still around.


43 posted on 07/31/2021 3:33:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: ocrp1982
And, who are YOU? What are YOUR CREDENTIALS in this field? Please publish them for us all to review. The man that originated studies into mRNA has issued warnings to not take these “vaccines” and that man has had his decades of research and study denigrated.

Good grief.

There’s plenty of places to go and read comments in an echo chamber. There’s a fair amount of that in the COVID-19 threads.

What you’re trying to do is shutdown discussion because you don’t like what you are reading.

Well, too bad. The poster was polite and disagreed. So? And?

There’s plenty of zany stuff being posted about COVID-19. Using the “who are you to disagree with an expert” line to a post you disagree with - zany or otherwise - is just lazy.

44 posted on 07/31/2021 4:29:20 AM PDT by Fury
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To: fr_freak; All
the wisdom of mass vaccination against COVID

For a narrative of why this is not a vaccine, the gain of function crowd’s stated objective, and genomic issues with the delta variant, described as informative and “likely the most unvarnished truth that gets posted to these threads,” see reply 9 on this FR post.

45 posted on 07/31/2021 4:40:17 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: ocrp1982
"Poison" is not a specific description for the injections that people get. It is innuendo. If you look carefully most of what is being claimed is speculation and innuendo.
46 posted on 07/31/2021 4:49:39 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: BlueHorseShoe
Dave Ramaswamy was on and said the reason India was having such a terrible covid outbreak is because this year they stopped taking the HCQ that Indians take routinely

That may or may not be true, may or may not have been a mistake (HCQ is mainly an immunosuppressant). But that has nothing to do with how Delta orginated.

47 posted on 07/31/2021 4:52:43 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I'll try to post more links. I have a lot of them but I don't have the HTML cut/paste that many other people have. I can do that and maybe be just as annoying. Delta origin: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.07.21260142v1.full.pdf
48 posted on 07/31/2021 4:57:17 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Don’t forget about the billions and billions Big Pharma is extracting. Carl Sagan couldn’t keep up with so many BILLIONS!


49 posted on 07/31/2021 6:16:13 AM PDT by Theophilus (Dems fear fear. Christians fear God. )
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To: HollyB

yup, it’s an attenuatior


50 posted on 07/31/2021 7:19:12 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: HollyB

Of course, why wouldn’t it be?

A vaccine is a medicine which provokes an immune response against a particular pathogen in order to safely prepare your body’s specific immune system to fight that pathogen in advance.

Whether it’s the viral vector J&J vaccine or the mRNA Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, each of them do that by presenting a key SARS-CoV-2 antigen to your immune system. This enables your body to ramp up its defense against SARS-CoV-2 before you’re exposed to the actual virus. So if and when you are exposed, you’re much better prepared to fight it.


51 posted on 07/31/2021 12:15:01 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

The MMR test also has 95% efficacy. Only the protection is 1:1. One vaccinated person will protect one non vaccinated person.

The Covid vaccine has a 95% efficacy too. But it takes 113 vaccinated people to protect one non vaccinated person.

Numbers matter


52 posted on 07/31/2021 1:48:04 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: palmer

Dr. Malone disagrees with you. So, who am I to believe? You, or the PIONEER in mRNA Research who has warned people not to take the jab? Hmmm?


53 posted on 07/31/2021 7:11:13 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: Fury

“Good grief.” This is your response? Really? As I said, the PIONEER into mRNA Research has warned people against these “vaccines”. He has warned people about their dire consequences. As a result, he has been Ostracisized by our Gov’t, Social Media, and the MSM.
The man could easily have made himself a HERO by PARROTING the official Gov’t line. Instead, he chose to put himself out there for TRUTH.
So, we have a choice. We can listen to the alphabet agencies populated by Leftists, Gov’t bureaucrats, Social Media and the MSM OR we can listen to the PIONEER of mRNA research sounding a Warning Alarm. I know exactly who I’m listening to.


54 posted on 07/31/2021 8:21:19 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: lightman; Jane Long; metmom
The last paragraph....


55 posted on 08/01/2021 2:29:07 AM PDT by Salamander (We Have Forgotten The Faces Of Our Fathers....)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You just had to mention liberals, didn’t ya?

;D


56 posted on 08/01/2021 2:32:11 AM PDT by Salamander (We Have Forgotten The Faces Of Our Fathers....)
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To: Ahithophel

Thank you for that, you awful spammer, you.

:D


57 posted on 08/01/2021 2:47:25 AM PDT by Salamander (We Have Forgotten The Faces Of Our Fathers....)
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To: HollyB

“It’s more of a treatment which reduces symptoms. Therefore, Covid continues to spread. And mutate.”

So the folks that got the jab feel fine and are out and about while sick (Typhoid Marys). But the unvaxed are under the weather and stay home. But it is the unvaxed that are going to be taken from their homes in [box]cars to go get the jab.


58 posted on 08/01/2021 3:03:56 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: Salamander

The Zombie Apocalypse is coming.


59 posted on 08/01/2021 6:06:21 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bttt!


60 posted on 08/01/2021 8:06:19 AM PDT by Pagey (Valerie Jarrett. She IS STILL in DC creating More Havoc on This Country. )
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