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So much for you medical privacy.

Wonder if your medical expenses would be covered under workman's comp?

1 posted on 07/30/2021 8:10:20 AM PDT by bgill
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So what? There seem to be jobs begging out the yinyang.


39 posted on 07/30/2021 8:29:35 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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two is if someone has a disability such that they would have an adverse reaction to a vaccine."

So far just about everybody has had an adverse reaction to the jab.

40 posted on 07/30/2021 8:32:20 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (I identify as fully vaccinated. )
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From a DoJ document:

the agency required DOD to inform potential vaccine
recipients “of the option to accept or refuse administration of [the vaccine].”
Authorization of Emergency Use of Anthrax Vaccine Adsorbed for
Prevention of Inhalation Anthrax by Individuals at Heightened Risk of
Exposure Due to Attack With Anthrax; Availability, 70 Fed. Reg. 5452,
5455 (Feb. 2, 2005). That EUA continued:

With respect to [the] condition . . . relating to the option to accept or refuse administration of [the vaccine], the [immunization program] will be revised to give personnel the option to refuse vaccination.

Individuals who refuse anthrax vaccination will not be punished. Refusal may not be grounds for any disciplinary action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Refusal may not be grounds for any adverse personnel action. Nor would either military or civilian personnel be considered non-deployable or processed for separation based on refusal of anthrax vaccination.

There may be no penalty or loss of entitlement for refusing anthrax vaccination.

https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2021/07/DOJ-Vaccine-Memo.pdf


42 posted on 07/30/2021 8:34:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I was going to say “How does he know?”
Because I will casually lie about this and produce fake ‘passport’ without losing a second of sleep.


43 posted on 07/30/2021 8:35:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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Can your employer require male employees to get a vasectomy?

How about giving your kidney to the CEO?

Can your employer search your house and confiscate your guns?


49 posted on 07/30/2021 8:40:58 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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Go Galt?


50 posted on 07/30/2021 8:41:50 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODYS BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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Fortunately I’m retirement eligible and plan to go in two years anyway. It will take that long for my agency to figure out how they’re going to execute Biden’s guidance, and by that time I think we’ll be well out of this.


51 posted on 07/30/2021 8:43:34 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority.)
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What if you refuse to answer?

It seems to me to be the wisest choice


52 posted on 07/30/2021 8:45:07 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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From DoJ guidance:

“virtually all such persons continue to have the ‘option’
of refusing the vaccine in the sense that there is no direct legal requirement that they receive it. See Bridges, 2021 WL 2399994, at *2 (noting that an employer’s vaccination policy was not “coercive” because an employee “can freely choose to accept or refuse a COVID-19 vaccine; however, if she refuses, she will simply need to work somewhere else”)”

https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2021/07/DOJ-Vaccine-Memo.pdf

The insertion of the phrase “no direct legal requirement” implies that having a direct legal requirement would be coercive.

In my opinion, there are so many indirect legal pressures such as already contracted for mortgage payments, car payments, auto insurance, property tax and health care cost coverage legal continuity requirement that legal coercion effectively exists. I took out a mortgage in 1982 because my marginal tax brackets, state and federal combined, were nearing 40%.

As for the term “freely”, it can take a few weeks to get a new job, which might mean the loss of over $2,000 for a nurse, which is logically incompatible with “freely”.

Why were judges given Article III, Section 1 compensation protection if they could simply hang out a lawyer shingle?


57 posted on 07/30/2021 8:48:50 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Says who? A hack lawyer? What about HIPAA? Go away.


58 posted on 07/30/2021 8:49:36 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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Everyone might have an adverse reaction to these vaccines according to the VAERs explosion. Hand waving nonsense about how VAERs is not scientifically verified lack any actual data. The publuc Empirical data screams DANGER. The big pharma data says nah, its fine, honest. The long term studies do not exist yet. So at this time anybody might have an adverse reaction as far as we know. Maybe after 3 years everyone will...we don’t know.


59 posted on 07/30/2021 8:49:55 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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I’m pro-vax, but I must reserve the basic human right to control what is put into my body and I know that others must also have the full ability to do so too.

Since 99%+ of the people dying of Covid now are unvaccinated, persuasion by reasoning alone is possible and is the proper way forward.

The media can make it well know that Trump, Pence, Biden, Harris, Pelosi and her House Democratic teammates and Schumer and his Senate Democratic teammates are all fully vaccinated. 100%.

Professional ballplayers and community leaders can appear on TV to persuade minority holdouts.


62 posted on 07/30/2021 8:52:15 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Vaccines, maybe. Emergency Use Authorization drugs, not so much.


63 posted on 07/30/2021 8:52:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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see thread #3980227

Federal law VS Employers


66 posted on 07/30/2021 9:04:36 AM PDT by ridesthemiles ( )
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From the Pfizer Patient Consent Form:

“ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS (INITIAL EACH STATEMENT):
....
The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.”

http://www.co.fannin.tx.us/upload/page/10318/docs/Pfizer/Pfizer%20Consent%20Form%20-%20Fillable.pdf

Refuseniks can not get the vaccine without committing fraud.

No employer can require any person to commit fraud.

I’m pro-vax, but I must reserve the basic human right to control what is put into my body and I know that others must also have the full ability to do so too.


72 posted on 07/30/2021 9:24:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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So much for you medical privacy.

I would think that since the Supremes found a right to privacy in the preamble of the Constitution in order to rule in favor of Roe, that we can use that same ruling for our privacy.

75 posted on 07/30/2021 9:33:44 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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Here is a link to the files necessary for constructing an air tight religious exemption request for the COVID vaccine if it is mandatory for you: https://news.gab.com/2021/07/29/important-download-covid-vaccine-religious-exemption-documents-here/

"The Vaccine Exemption Documents here are divided according to what you may require in order to submit a personalized exemption request to your school or work. I have included each form in a word document, and a PDF, depending on which it is that someone needs, can edit, or wants to submit."

"The Full Document is everything necessary for a US Army Soldier to submit a religious exemption request to his immediate commander, with only certain portions needing to be edited to include your name, unit, and details."

"The "Religious + Practical Side Supporting Documents" is all the details giving both the religious reasons for why Orthodox Christians cannot receive the Vaccine, and the practical reasons for why it isn't actually necessary to receive the Vaccine. This is all without the military related documents or information, so that it can be customized for your school or your workplace if either are mandating the Vaccine."

"The Religious and Practical Side Supporting Documents are also separated in case you specifically need either one without the other.""

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79 posted on 07/30/2021 9:44:09 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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Part (III) of the relevant part of EUA law, excerpted below, reasonably indicates that an employee can be fired for refusing jab imo.

On the other hand, speaking of experimental "vaccine" mandates, part (II) of law excerpted below also mandates that the person receiving the jab is reasonably officially informed of the pros and cons of taking jab.

Instead, employees who have responsibly researched alleged problems with experimental “vaccine” want to refuse mandatory jab from employers who are seemingly up to their eyeballs in politically correct, pro-jab government / media propaganda imo.

21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies
"(e) Conditions of authorization
(1) Unapproved product
(A) Required conditions
(ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed
(I) that the Secretary [Secretary of Health and Human Services] has authorized the emergency use of the product;

(II) of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and

(III) of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks."

VIDEO: Rand Paul Addresses the Delta Variant and Covid Misinformation (7.28.21)

For possible insight as to what may be happening behind the pro-jab TV cameras, consider that new Big Pharma "vaccine" billionaires may be helping to get desperate Democrats reelected imo.

Corrections, insights welcome.

82 posted on 07/30/2021 9:53:43 AM PDT by Amendment10
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One lawyers opinion. Worth about as much a one sack full of wet a$$holes.


90 posted on 07/30/2021 10:34:48 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (When everyone is an expert, no one is.)
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And people can quit the first second they hear of someone being fired for not be a guinea pig. I trust millions will quit and bring these companies to their knees.


91 posted on 07/30/2021 10:43:04 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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