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Chip Shortage Leads to ‘Dead’ Cars On Factory Lots, GM Halts Truck Production
TTAC ^ | July 22, 2021 | Tim Healey

Posted on 07/23/2021 5:13:01 PM PDT by george76

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To: BenLurkin

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81 posted on 07/23/2021 10:14:21 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Eddie01

Back in the’80s I was on it and there was a traffic jam. I was at the top, got out to stretch my legs and looked down...


82 posted on 07/23/2021 10:15:49 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Karl Spooner

YEAH; but it’s a damn short bed, only interested in long beds!


83 posted on 07/23/2021 10:18:21 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DEPcom

My wife has been waiting over a year (YES, OVER 1 YEAR) for a stupid chip for her 2010 Ford Explorer, how can a 2010 vehicle of any make or model wait this long for what should have been a simple replacement part!


84 posted on 07/23/2021 10:26:39 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: AlaskaErik

And here I would gladly go back to my old INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER CARRYALL, it didn’t have any of that crap, but when you locked the hubs it would climb a pine tree.

It was built like a tank.


85 posted on 07/23/2021 10:38:29 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 5th MEB
And here I would gladly go back to my old INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER CARRYALL, it didn’t have any of that crap, but when you locked the hubs it would climb a pine tree.

Locking hubs is another thing I never want to go back to. Or a transfer case with the shifter on the floor. I love my push button four wheel drive and auto locking hubs.

86 posted on 07/24/2021 12:53:45 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Eddie01
I think about that one every time I cross that bridge.

They don't really know what happened but those guard rails are very low. She got a front wheel up on one of them and slipped between the cables.

Very frightening.

87 posted on 07/24/2021 3:27:50 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam---At war with Western Civilization for 1400 years)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Drive by today and it’s empty.

Ditto for the Subaru dealership in my town

88 posted on 07/24/2021 6:19:46 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: Bobalu

IRT post 21. I learned how to drive with a Rambler 3 on the tree. By the time my parents acquired it, it needed a quart of oil with every fill up.


89 posted on 07/24/2021 6:28:32 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: bigbob
Anyone who’s worked in the automotive supply chain knows how invasive and demanding their supplier quality assurance people are, putting suppliers through the wringer to prevent exactly this scenario.

Seems like it should work, right? Let me count the ways people in business can delude themselves when they think the gravy trail might spring a leak...oh it’s an uncountable infinity of rationalization, never mind...I’m not a specialist, but I have a decent handle on how SQA and SRE play out in real life anti-patterns...

I suspect there are a lot of factors quashing the viable alternatives for the moment. Else these stories wouldn’t show up in the news.

In this case SQA doesn’t create product to measure, heheh. And efficiency of JIT-style supply chain matters little when there’s no product to source. Giant chip fabs producing 99.99% of the product monopolized the market because the economy of scaling up and scaling down is remorseless in chip production. Everyone conformed to their suppliers lead time requirements to gain that last fractional penny of margin. But the forecast missed and the orders stopped. Now there’s demand there’s nothing in the pipeline and no one who could afford to compete to really pick up the slack. By the time another fab scaled up production to meet demand the big guys would have turned around and undercut the investment.

In the mean time, the needed chips might turn up, so there’s no reason to stop manufacturing DOA pickup trucks...

90 posted on 07/24/2021 7:50:58 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: Spktyr
Toyota and Honda have their own zaibatsus that can actually make their own chips, so they’re still producing albeit at a reduced rate.

I think they’re fabless, so they’re using some other fab's production capacity. This is a hedge, and it drives up the cost a hair. But it will assure some vehicle production to meet demand. I’m sure GM has product to sell too. They didn’t cancel all chip orders. This is more of a synchronization issue really. I suspect they produced the DOA vehicles thinking more chips would eventually show up. At a deeper take, it might be more expensive to idle production now.

91 posted on 07/24/2021 8:01:39 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: farming pharmer

It was.

Oh it was.


92 posted on 07/24/2021 10:20:40 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: no-s; Spktyr

Actually was just at a 90% empty Honda dealer. They are in chip negative starvation just like the rest and Toyota across the street was empty as well.


93 posted on 07/24/2021 10:55:17 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: KC Burke

Yes, they don’t have inventory - was pointing out that Toyota and Honda are still getting orders in, just at a much reduced rate. A friend of mine just received the new Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro they ordered a couple months ago.


94 posted on 07/24/2021 11:57:53 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: no-s

Denso, which is in tight orbit of Toyota, does actually have their own fabs in Japan. Toyota themselves have a fab too - this last was an outgrowth of the project that resulted in the Prius: https://www.semi.org/en/blogs/technology-trends/automotive-chip-manufacturing-in-japan-drives-innovation

Toyota is still being hurt by the industry wide shortage, but they can still make stuff at a lower rate on their own internal and close-associate resources.

I had forgotten that Honda was more dependent on Renesas, which had a bad fire at their main Japanese fab: https://www.wsj.com/articles/renesas-chip-plant-fire-spreads-concerns-about-global-auto-production-11616414181

I had also thought that Honda was still getting supplied by Hitachi, but it turns out Hitachi sold off the fab for that.


95 posted on 07/24/2021 12:05:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: GraceG

Back during obama’s reign, he ordered all federal agencies to buy up millions of round of ammo to keep them off the market. He also came up with cash for clunkers, intentionally destroying engines of used cars FORCING car buyers to go new.

Since this is his third term, I would bet that he has ordered all federal agencies to buy up all the computer chips to again FORCE the American car buyers to go electric.

Makes sense to me. He likes to use force.


96 posted on 06/12/2022 7:56:28 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Let's Go Brandon)
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To: EVO X

The GMC dealer in my town used to have a full lot of fleet vehicles in the back. Today it is empty. NONE.


97 posted on 06/12/2022 8:01:42 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Let's Go Brandon)
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To: Texas resident

I don’t see any new cars on the dealer lots. It is mostly a few used cars parked parallel to the roadway in the first row. Reports I’ve seen suggest new cars are currently down from the same time last year.


98 posted on 06/13/2022 5:29:55 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: ridesthemiles

But....... it’s a Chevy. The antiAmerican UAW built it


99 posted on 06/13/2022 5:34:02 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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