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To: Spktyr
Toyota and Honda have their own zaibatsus that can actually make their own chips, so they’re still producing albeit at a reduced rate.

I think they’re fabless, so they’re using some other fab's production capacity. This is a hedge, and it drives up the cost a hair. But it will assure some vehicle production to meet demand. I’m sure GM has product to sell too. They didn’t cancel all chip orders. This is more of a synchronization issue really. I suspect they produced the DOA vehicles thinking more chips would eventually show up. At a deeper take, it might be more expensive to idle production now.

91 posted on 07/24/2021 8:01:39 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: no-s; Spktyr

Actually was just at a 90% empty Honda dealer. They are in chip negative starvation just like the rest and Toyota across the street was empty as well.


93 posted on 07/24/2021 10:55:17 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: no-s

Denso, which is in tight orbit of Toyota, does actually have their own fabs in Japan. Toyota themselves have a fab too - this last was an outgrowth of the project that resulted in the Prius: https://www.semi.org/en/blogs/technology-trends/automotive-chip-manufacturing-in-japan-drives-innovation

Toyota is still being hurt by the industry wide shortage, but they can still make stuff at a lower rate on their own internal and close-associate resources.

I had forgotten that Honda was more dependent on Renesas, which had a bad fire at their main Japanese fab: https://www.wsj.com/articles/renesas-chip-plant-fire-spreads-concerns-about-global-auto-production-11616414181

I had also thought that Honda was still getting supplied by Hitachi, but it turns out Hitachi sold off the fab for that.


95 posted on 07/24/2021 12:05:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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