Looks like the government will force electric cars on us. If the grid is out then we are ****ed.
I think it’s beyond governments now. The momentum for electric cars is huge - the newer models and the lower prices and the increased availability will drive more people to it as the obvious choice.
it will be like how apple’s smartphones destroyed Nokia.
Or like how solar panel prices crashed and more and more people decided it made sense to put some up on their garages.
If the grid is out then you use your own electric generator.
The argument “if the grid is out...” is just like saying “if petrol runs out in my area...”
It's not the grid that's the biggest problem. These vehicles will make full use of navigation technology and will be web-connected like nothing before. The government will use that to restrict our mobility even if the grid stays up. Posted a comment somewhere about avoiding a vaccine? No interstate travel for you. Critical of your governor or other state politicians? Guess who won't be driving anywhere near the state capitol.
1. The experts say there will not be enough electricity generation to accommodate everyone driving, and therefore requiring, electric power to charge everybody's cars.
2. Electricity generation still requires fossil fuels.
3. Batteries require materials that are not abundant in nature. What happen when they are depleted?
4. What happens when your battery goes bad and you have to replace it. How much will that cost? And amortized over the life of the car, how much will that affect the overall value?
5. The nature of getting refueled will completely change. Instead of a quick ten minute stop at the pump to fill the tank, one would require an hour or more to recharge the battery. What about the backup at recharging stations waiting in line for your 1-2 hours charge? The devil's in the details.
6. What happens when the electric grid goes down? What happens in a thunderstorm and the power goes off? Are you and others just stranded at the charging station?
7. What happens to the electric grid when everyone is trying to charge their cars overnight or at the same time? Will there be blackouts or brownouts?
8. How will electricity distribution change? What will the priorities for electric use between cars and residential and commercial usage be?
9. I live and work on a farm. An electric vehicle would be worthless to do heavy duty work that's required.
10. The unintended consequences of a not so well thought out idea by the Marxist Left.
Anyone who doesn’t see how screwed Texas wiould have been last February is a complete idiot. And we simply don’t have the electrical generating capacity for the conversion. It would take a crash program building nuclear generating plants. Good luck with that, given the Green extremists and our courts.
Electric cars are more freedom than gas. I can make electricity to power them with solar panels off the grid .
I cannot make gasoline.
I'll just be sure to be living in high desert by then.
Calif is already calling for electric car owners to NOT charge their cars due to power shortages.
Let’s also talk about recycling the lithium, not done yet. Let’s talk about the mass destruction of the land around a nickel plant. Let’s talk about the massive use of H2O in the Chilean desert when mining lithium. So the save the planet crowd are not asking about these issues!
Lastly is that 40% of electricity generated in California comes from…... natural gas!
So Tesla, let’s work on the Cradle to grave plan. Oh for those who do not know, Germany has a law addressing End-of-life-vehicles and their recycling.
Exactly. The government is forcing this crap. And China owns the rare earth production. And the politicians will get their kick backs. And Africa will be ravaged for the resources. Vestas will make more billions with stupid windmills. It will be paradise.
It will be fun watching these during a north European winter. I got stuck in a two hour jam from a wreck right when the hottest of this heatwave kicked in. It was probably 105 out. There were several Teslas that had to be pushed off to the side of the road with dead batteries while I happily idled away with the AC running. I would probably bribe someone for a couple gallons with a Benjamin but where are these fools going to get a spare battery pack?
Same thing with cutting off nat gas to homes. We’ll see higher costs and less convenience. Thank you Democrats.