Posted on 07/15/2021 9:58:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Would anyone in the US respect the power of the Federal Courts (none people, ultimately) to overturn a POTUS election, even for cause?
Months after congress has certified it?
Sure, they could have their hearings and trials but they have no clear constitutional authority to rule in this matter.
Any sane POTUS would simply say no, and would receive backing by congress to raise sufficient forces to say no.
Likely with the support of the majority of the American people.
Election fraud? They have no Constitutional powers to rule on that?
Sure they do.
They could invalidate fraudulent election results and they could invalidate any certifications and any slate of electors based on those fraudulent results.
No seated federal officer has been removed by a court for any reason, including election fraud.
Once seated, expulsion (congress) or impeachment are the only mechanisms.
So what. Can you name one case where a judge allowed a federal officer to stay in office after fraud was proven in court?
Once seated, expulsion (congress) or impeachment are the only mechanisms.
Nope. The 25th amendment and impeachment are mechanisms that can be used to remove a legitimately elected president. Fraudsters who committed illegal acts to gain office gain no such benefit.
A fraudster doesn't get to retain the fruits of their fraud once fraud is proven.
Fraud vitiates everything. Every legal cases abides by that basic legal principle.
That you fervently wish it to be so, it is not.
There are several cases of election fraud where courts have invalidated elections...but always before the officer was seated. There are also cases where either house of congress have refused to seat an elected officer for various reasons.
Even cases where the congress has expelled a member.
But there has never even been a case brought before a federal court asking to remove a seated officer.
Because everyone in the world knows it’s stupid, except you.
What’s going on in Pennsylvania, are the Marxist domestic enemies still refusing to allow an audit? Is there any legal action Trump can take?
Mariner: Um you're wrong...um because it's stupid..um because the world says so.
LOL!
That's Mariner's smart argument.
You loose.
There is never a legal benefit to fraud. Every single legal case follows that very basic legal principle. A fraudulently elected president when proven in a court of law should not retain the exclusive benefit of needing to be removed by impeachment or the 25th amendment.
It doesn't apply to a fraud.
“There is never a legal benefit to fraud.”
Joe Biden was “elected” as a result of the greatest fraud the nation has ever seen. It encompassed nearly every voting district in every state.
And he will remain POTUS until/unless removed by the 25th, impeachment or death until his term expires in 2025.
Which belies your silly assertion.
Go read a book and edify yourself.
You lost the argument so no you've changed the argument.
I never said that he wouldn't "remain" in office. My point was about what "should" happen.
Or perhaps you don't understand the difference and you easily conflate the two.
“Hold Trump’s Beer.”
You mean his diet soda. Donald the Great does not drink alcohol.
“You lost the argument”
Whatever the Qtard says must be reality.
“My point was about what “should” happen. “
All along your argument has been what “could” happen.
I assert it cannot. And I am correct.
Can they at least get the Lamestream Media, President *, et al, to STOP referring to the “big lie” as Trump’s “disproven” claims of the election being stolen from him??? These legitimate claims are certainly being very much proven and they will no longer be able to ignore nor sweep them under the rug. This goes far wider than just Arizona. The American voters were robbed of their Constitutional right to elect the president - and probably some of their representatives in Congress, too - by others who presumed they knew what was best and could put in place the puppet whom they could control. This was high treason and those who participated in it MUST be brought to justice - every last one of them!
Because the Founders never imagined a political party would conspire to do something so traitorous and despicable! Now we see that it HAS happened, a remedy must be created. I don't see how Biden or Harris can be allowed to remain until 2024. Perhaps next year there needs to be a do-over.
Sure they did :
Thank you for clarifying the process.
You got it.
Patriots MUST get back to learning the Constitution - its presumptions, structure, text, and historical Court perversions - and then defending it with that understanding, if we are to recover our Free Constitutional Republic.
I despise Qanon and the Qtards. I've got hundreds of posts to prove it.
Only a moron like you would make such a false statement and posit about "reality" all in one short sentence.
My apologies.
Your previous derision and false accusations cause me to emote.
Anyway, have a good day.
Regards.
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