Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Violence spreads in South Africa as grievances boil over
Reuters ^ | 07/13/2021 | Alexander WinningWendell Roelf

Posted on 07/13/2021 5:38:46 AM PDT by ScubaDiver

JOHANNESBURG, July 13 (Reuters) - Protesters clashed with police in several areas of South Africa and looters ransacked shopping malls on Tuesday as frustrations over poverty and inequality boiled over into the country's worst unrest in years.

Security officials said the government was working to ensure the violence and looting did not spread further, but they stopped short of declaring a state of emergency.

"No amount of unhappiness or personal circumstances from our people gives the right to anyone to loot, vandalise and do as they please and break the law," Police Minister Bheki Cele told a news conference.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: antonyblinken; cuba; gregorymeeks; jenpsaki; newjersey; newyork; riots; robertmenendez; southafrica
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last
To: nonliberal
Apartheid was there for a reason.

Still a bad system though. When the Afrikaners arrived in Capetown, there were not Blacks. Some Bushmen though (indigenous folks). Then gold was discovered in Johannesburg. All of sudden, they needed cheap labor. So Africans moved in to modern day South Africa. Afrikaners never included them in the political process though. So that's why this country is ****ed up.

41 posted on 07/13/2021 3:12:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MinorityRepublican

The original idea of Apartheid was for blacks and whites to live completely separate, each living in the kind of society that worked for them, and acknowledging that the blacks and whites had very different societies that were incompatible.

The problem was, as they say, “How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen Paree?”

And ultimately the blacks were exploited for cheap labor.


42 posted on 07/13/2021 3:15:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: ScubaDiver

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/video-breaking-news-complete-societal-collapse-in-south-africa-rioters-being-shot-dead-by-armed-citizens-after-police-pull-back-looters-being-whipped-in-the-streets

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/south-africa-collapse-day-2-rioters-shot-dead-burned-alive-beaten-and-bleeding-to-death-on-streets-factories-stores-farms-burned


43 posted on 07/13/2021 3:28:12 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
The original idea of Apartheid was for blacks and whites to live completely separate, each living in the kind of society that worked for them, and acknowledging that the blacks and whites had very different societies that were incompatible.

Good idea on paper. But it didn't work. The tribal homelands had nothing so they were never going to survive on their own.

What should had happened after the end of Apartheid was to divide South Africa into four countries. Capetown, Johannesburg, Xhosaland, Zululand. It won't be perfect but I think they'll do better than what we are seeing right now.

And ultimately the blacks were exploited for cheap labor.

Ultimately, that's why Apartheid failed. Now they want revenge. Even worse, they are not prepared for self-governance.

44 posted on 07/13/2021 4:17:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Chickensoup

Well, at least they did not damage the bookstore!;)


45 posted on 07/13/2021 4:25:40 PM PDT by Frank_2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: PghBaldy
tell her to get out....take whatever cash she can get, send it out in the mail maybe to you, and have her take a vacation to Italy, etc, with essential clothes, meds, jewels, etc....

the govt doesn't allow them to take all of their money I know but a little can go a long way when you're facing rape and murder.

46 posted on 07/13/2021 4:28:06 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

And money. Just like trouble making poverty pimps here.


47 posted on 07/13/2021 5:45:48 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Treat people like $hit, don’t be surprised when you see the backlash.


48 posted on 07/14/2021 1:57:42 AM PDT by the_individual2014
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: ScubaDiver

Eswatini, the former Swaziland, has been ruled by high-living kings since its independence in 1968. ...

July 2, 2021 ... known as Swaziland, has descended into the most explosive civil unrest in its 53 years of independence.
Eswatini,

Formerly Swaziland, Sees Brutal Government ...https://www.democracynow.org › 2021 › eswatini_anti...
StoryJuly 09, 2021 ...

More than half of Eswatini’s citizens live in poverty, while King Mswati III is ... Amnesty International reports at least 20 protesters have been killed ... turn to the African nation of Eswatini, which was known as Swaziland up until 2018. ... the country since it became independent from Britain 53 years ago.


49 posted on 07/14/2021 6:39:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ScubaDiver

Namibia Travel Advisory
Travel Advisory

June 17, 2021Namibia - Level 4: Do Not Travel

Do not travel to Namibia due to COVID-19.

On June 17, 2021, the State Department authorized the voluntary departure of non-emergency U.S. government employees and family members.

Read the Department of State’s COVID-19 page before you plan any international travel.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has issued a Level 4 Travel Health Notice for Namibia due to COVID-19, indicating a very high level of COVID-19 in the country.

Your risk of contracting COVID-19 and developing severe symptoms may be lower if you are fully vaccinated with an FDA authorized vaccine. Before planning any international travel, please review the CDC’s specific recommendations for vaccinated and unvaccinated travelers.

Visit the Embassy’s COVID-19 page for more information on COVID-19 related restrictions and conditions in Namibia.

Read the country information page.

If you decide to travel to Namibia:

See the U.S. Embassy’s web page regarding COVID-19.
Visit the CDC’s webpage on Travel and COVID-19.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.

Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter.
Review the Crime and Safety Report for Namibia.
U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/namibia-travel-advisory.html


50 posted on 07/14/2021 6:49:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: eyeamok

An expert’s point of view on a current event.
In South Africa, Police Violence Isn’t Black and White
The killing of a coloured teenager in Johannesburg exposed the fraught state of race relations in South Africa—and how the racial hierarchies created by apartheid continue to plague the country.

By Eusebius McKaiser, a political analyst and author based in Johannesburg.

South African police officers hold protesters back during the funeral procession for Nathaniel Julies—who was shot by police—in Eldorado Park, near Johannesburg, on Sept. 5.
South African police officers hold protesters back during the funeral procession for Nathaniel Julies—who was shot by police—in Eldorado Park, near Johannesburg, on Sept. 5.

OCTOBER 21, 2020, 7:38 AM
Sometimes an unjust killing reveals all the hidden scars of a nation. An innocent 16-year-old teenager, Nathaniel Julies, was shot dead by police on the evening of Wednesday, Aug. 26 near Johannesburg. This violent act was remarkable for many reasons despite South Africa’s familiarity with violence: Nathaniel was merely on his way to buy a biscuit at a nearby shop, and was killed a few meters from his home, for no apparent reason. He was a popular kid who had Down’s syndrome—and everyone in the community loved him. He was often jovial and quick to burst into dance. His killing felt like one gratuitous police assault too many on the entire neighborhood.

The racial dynamics of this case—and of South Africa more generally—tend to confuse most outside observers. While the Black Lives Matter movement in the United States is straightforwardly about Black people pushing back against anti-Black racism, South Africa’s situation is more complicated. The country’s apartheid and colonial histories introduced more fine-grained racial classifications that drew an administrative and sociopolitical wedge between Black people and so-called coloured people (mostly people of mixed heritage).

In Eldorado Park, the brutality of the largely Black police force left Nathaniel’s predominantly coloured community furious. The killing affirmed locals’ deeply held belief that they were marginalized and trampled on during the apartheid era under white supremacist rule, and now face a similar fate during the post-apartheid period under Black leaders. Their anger, in other words, stems in an important respect from the fact that they identify as neither Black nor white.

It was all the more significant because the officer who pulled the trigger was herself a coloured woman. The deepest source of rage in the community is that the police are seen as representatives of the country’s Black-led government and are perceived as institutionally racist against coloured people. Regardless of how individual officers look, the force is simply not trusted by a community that has experienced too much brutality from those meant to enforce law and order.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/10/21/in-south-africa-police-violence-isnt-black-and-white/


51 posted on 07/14/2021 6:56:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Grampa Dave

Lots of folks from the countries listed below crossing the US border illegally and being spread into our cities by Biden and his thugs - every day...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html#travel-1

Level 4: COVID-19 Very High

Avoid travel to these destinations. If you must travel to these destinations, make sure you are fully vaccinated before travel.

Argentina
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bolivia
Botswana
Brazil
Burma (Myanmar)
Burundi
Cape Verde
Central African Republic
Chile
Colombia
Congo, Republic of the
Costa Rica
Democratic Republic of the Congo
French Guiana
Georgia
Guinea-Bissau
Haiti
India
Iraq
Kuwait
Liberia
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
Netherlands, The
Nicaragua
Oman
Pakistan
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Réunion
Rwanda
Saudi Arabia
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Somalia
South Africa
South Sudan
Sudan
Suriname
Syria
Tunisia
Trinidad and Tobago
Uganda
United Arab Emirates
Uruguay
Zambia

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html#travel-1


52 posted on 07/14/2021 7:35:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (ARSON isn't fire violence. RAPE isn't penis violence. Murder isn't gun violence.- Criminal violence )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

Thanks, scary stuff and it is apparently around the world.


53 posted on 07/14/2021 8:23:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If I wanted to live in China, Cuba, Canada or ?????! I would move there! Covid 19 über alles!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: ScubaDiver

Basically governments are corrupt, maybe people are getting pissed off.


54 posted on 07/14/2021 8:24:48 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nonliberal

Yep, functioning society done in by the court of public opinion. Not a good way to start another functional society. As was apparent on day one. Had a good friend who departed in the early seventies knowing what was coming.


55 posted on 07/14/2021 3:43:55 PM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson