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China crisis: Xi Jinping's regime 'could soon collapse' as military purge backfires on CCP
https://www.express.co.uk/ ^ | 16:20, Fri, Jul 9, 2021 | By OLI SMITH

Posted on 07/09/2021 1:11:50 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: DoughtyOne

“It’s its goal to dominate the planet by force.”

Perhaps, but the ill-fated trip into India’s Ladakh union territory was a major screw-up last summer by China’s “supermen.” The Indian Gurkhas slaughtered the ChiComm weenies and stacked the ChiComm bodies like cordwood.


41 posted on 07/09/2021 3:15:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Federal courts no longer have any standing in America. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Communists are pathological liars. Commie countries get away with using the craven western Press to carry their propaganda. China’s military is far more hollow than it appears. And it’s economy too. It’s officers and especially Generals are chosen first for loyalty to Xi and the CCP. Just like in Stalinist Russia, the military looks powerful. But look what fits tiny Finland delivered to the Greeeeeat Russia. Stalin had purged the Red Army of any competent officers. China is in a similar boat. China’s political Army got its butt handed to it by the Vietnamese some years ago.

The US military needs China to be a dangerous enemy. If there wasn’t China they would invent something else. In fact, the rise of China is probably the reason the US under Biden has pulled out of Afghanistan. As an enemy with a domestic hi-tech arms market China is a much preferred adversary for the US military and Arms manufacturers. Ever growing budgets are assured for the foreseeable future.

Anyhow, my 2 pence... or probably dollars soon.


42 posted on 07/09/2021 3:26:04 PM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: DoughtyOne
Too bad a moderate faction couldn’t spring up and put the kabash on China’s global takeover.

The "moderate" faction would only jail you for life when the "extreme" factions would just kill you outright.

43 posted on 07/09/2021 3:55:30 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Wuli

There are several documentaries made during that time and the troops are called “mountain troops” by the Chinese narrator who was present during the slaughter, and the troops are shown being given propaganda - the voice over explains just what these materials were and why they were necessary. The main reason is the local troops refused to fire on the students and these new troops had to be convinced that the local troops were part of the terrorist uprising and must be killed.

Perhaps these video have been scrubbed by youtube - I DL’ed them. Most modern troops are at least literate to some degree and do understand what is going on, unlike the mountain troops which lived in isolation away from cities and towns.

Control now is going to be even more top down than before as Xi made clear. Likely the old CCP member will be purged and a new on installed.

They were students, not random protestors as you edited my comment.

I imagine that recruits come from the countryside today where a life in the military is a good escape from the rural poverty. I have no idea of their education levels - the videos did make the point that these troops were specifically brought in from a distant province that had little contact with ordinary military or ordinary people.

Here is a list of my sources:
Declassified_ Chinese official said at least 10,000 civilians died in 1989 Tiananmen massacre
Archive Chinese troops fire on protesters in Tiananmen Square BBC News (mp4)
[Documentary] Tiananmen Square Massacre 1989 in China (mp4)
Inside China June 4th Tiananmen Square Massacre Part 1 (mp4)
Inside China June 4th Tiananmen Square Massacre Part 2 (mp4)
It happened in Tiananmen Square Documentary (mp4)
Tiananmen Square Massacre (mp4)


44 posted on 07/09/2021 4:00:07 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: 353FMG

RE: Won’t happen. Too good to be true

Sad to say I have to agree with you.

But let’s....

DREAM

Dream
When you’re feelin’ blue
Dream
That’s the thing to do

Just watch the smoke rings rise in the air
You’ll find your share of memories there
So dream
When the day is through

Dream
And they might come true
Things never are as bad as they seem
So dream, dream, dream


45 posted on 07/09/2021 4:23:59 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger

Quoting John McEnroe:YOU CAN”T BE SERIOUS!!!


46 posted on 07/09/2021 4:44:08 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: frank ballenger

YOU CAN”T BE SERIOUS!!! After seeing what we have in the White House today, I don’t believe in prosperous times for this country any more. Any good fortune for this country will be a miracle but we have overreached God’s patience with our country.


47 posted on 07/09/2021 4:55:43 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: EBH
The world will be in a world of hurt.

Nope. Just the opposite!!! The USA would be 1,000 times better off if that happened!! It would be an economic boon with manufacturing centers popping up, new construction jobs galore. We could only hope we cut economics ties with the ChiComs!!!

48 posted on 07/09/2021 4:59:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Joe Boucher

Nice rant Joe.


49 posted on 07/09/2021 5:02:35 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ScottinVA
The chinese communist party has been in charge of China for just about exactly 70 years. It's been my observation that history moves in a cycle of crises every 70-80 years. For example the American revolution ended in 1789. 70 years later in 1860 the American Civil War started. ~70 years after that in 1929 we had the great depression followed by WW2. 70 years after WW2 ended in 1945 takes us to 2017 and the rise of the criminal deep state dedicated to one-party rule, our current crisis. You can see a similar pattern elsewhere. I called it the 70 year itch. A freeper I noted this to pointed out that this theory has been written about in a book called "The Fourth Turning" except they say it's an 80 year cycle. Fine. Close enough.

So why mention this? Like I said, the CCP has been running the show there for 70 years. Three generations, basically. This is when a crisis comes that either collapses them (and they start over) or they emerge stronger than ever.

Could be BS on my part, but the timing works out at least.

50 posted on 07/09/2021 6:07:25 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: ScottinVA

Also note that the Soviet Union was established in 1917. 70ish years as a super power and they suddenly collapsed completely and the cold war ended circa 1989/1990. Call their run 73 years. Close enough.


51 posted on 07/09/2021 6:10:33 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

I think it’s related to Kondratiev Cycles.


52 posted on 07/09/2021 6:20:43 PM PDT by bankwalker (groupthink kills ...)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Your post = food for thought


53 posted on 07/09/2021 8:29:17 PM PDT by octex
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To: central_va

You really think that would happen under Biden? LOL...


54 posted on 07/10/2021 3:10:07 AM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: EBH

Do American Free Traitors™ think they will be able to continue being Chinese middlemen if their was a war in Asia with China?


55 posted on 07/10/2021 4:18:21 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rbg81

Japan is under our Nuclear umbrella as is South Korea etc.
Course you have Slow Joe who in financially beholding to the Chi-Coms so who knows??


56 posted on 07/10/2021 7:15:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (You Go Donald.)
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To: ScottinVA

Given that ALL the countries within the South China Sea are fearing China all bets are off that they all would welcome any help from big brother America.
MOAB is not necessary, how about hitting their big ass Dam with a couple of “rods from god” ?
That too would do the trick.
Look it up.
And don’t cha know the CCP deserve a hell of a kick in the teeth?


57 posted on 07/10/2021 7:20:51 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (You Go Donald.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Food for thought.
Hope them China folks understand that pay back CAN be a mother.
Maybe knot with slow Joe but can they be assured The Donald won’t be back???


58 posted on 07/10/2021 7:23:13 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (You Go Donald.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Japan is under our Nuclear umbrella as is South Korea etc.


If I were Japan or SK, I would not give a squirt of pi$$ for such assurances. Obama tried the same trick with Israel in his second term, but they were smart enough not to give up their nuclear deterrence.

And, frankly, I am not even sure the current US leadership would retaliate on our behalf, especially if a Commie country launched the attack.


59 posted on 07/10/2021 8:29:44 AM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: rbg81

General Turdgeson to the red phone please.
General Turdgeson to the Red phone please.


60 posted on 07/10/2021 8:41:21 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (You Go Donald.)
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