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Did Hobby Lobby Really Go ‘Full Dominionism’?
Townhall.com ^ | July 5, 2021 | Michael Brown

Posted on 07/05/2021 6:22:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

On July 4th, Hobby Lobby took out a full-page ad in multiple newspapers featuring a prominently placed verse from the Bible along with numerous, pro-Christian, pro-Bible quotes from our Founding Fathers and other key leaders in our history.

It then closed with an appeal to seekers to find out more about Jesus. The response has been quite shrill, if not downright hysterical. But is the response in any way justified?

According to a headline on the popular gay atheist blogsite, Joe My God, “Hobby Lobby Goes Full Dominionist In July 4th Ad.”

A viral tweet claimed, “Hobby lobby took out a full page ad in the Register-Guard this morning. Talking about how America should only be led by Christians. Absolutely frightening.”

Another tweet alleged, “Full page of dominionist propaganda in this morning’s @BostonGlobe courtesy of @hobbylobby. #separationofchurchandstate”

Yet another tweet stated, “Hobby Lobby Faces Backlash For July 4th Ad Claiming Only Christians Belong in America.”

And still another tweet (and there are more cited by Joe My God) claimed, “Hobby Lobby's owners should look at the US Constitution. There's no litmus test for religion to hold public office. And there's surely no mandate for a theocracy.

“Also, they might want to review the 10 Commandments since they're fond of stealing artifacts from other countries.”

Snopes.com actually devoted a page to examining whether it was true that, “On Independence Day in 2021, Hobby Lobby crafts store placed an ad in several newspapers that read: ‘One Nation Under God.’” (The verdict: yes, it’s true!)

But what does the ad actually say? Is Hobby Lobby guilty of preaching dominionism? Of suggesting that only Christians can run for office? That America should only be led (or populated) by Christians?

The Hobby Lobby website provided a link to the ad with options to download a JPEG or PDF version, so anyone can check out the content and read it for themselves.

It features a large picture of an American flag and next to it the words, “One Nation Under God.”

So far, so good. That’s what we still say in the Pledge of Allegiance, and that is certainly the hope of ten of millions of Americans today.

Next is a quotation from Psalm 33:12, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord,” in all caps.

Again, so far, so good.

This is a universal biblical axiom, and one that has been shared by generations of a predominantly Christian-professing America. We believe that to be true, but we are not seeking to enforce that.

Then, in small print, is a series of quotes from Presidents, Founding Fathers, Supreme Court Justices, Congress, Education, Supreme Court Rulings, and Foreign Opinion.

Some of the quotes simply remind us that our founders believed that Christian faith was indispensable to the success and stability of our nation.

For example, John Adams stated that, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

And Jedidah Morse opined that, “Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government, and all the blessings which flow from them, must fall with them.”

More broadly, the ad quoted Thomas Jefferson, who asked, “Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?”

Other quotes were broader still, including a quote from the non-Christian Benjamin Franklin, pointing to the deity’s providential care over the world.

And there were quotes pointing to the supremacy of the Scriptures, like this, from the first Chief Justice, John Jay, who wrote, “The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next.”

That being said, there were other quotes that affirmed that America was founded as a Christian nation, that Christians were best suited to lead the nation, and that the Christian faith lay at the root of our legal system.

For example, John Quincy Adams said, “Is it not that the Declaration of Independence first organized the social compact on the foundation of the Redeemer’s mission upon the earth?”

And James Madison argued that a non-believer was not fit for leadership, stating, “Before any man can be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.”

John Jay also said, “Providence has given to our people the choice of their ruler, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.”

The Freedom from Religion Foundation posted a rebuttal to these quotes titled, “In Hobby Lobby We Don’t Trust.” This was followed by, “Do these quotes prove we are a Christian nation? Click them to find out.”

It claims that some of the quotes were deliberately altered or taken out of context so as to mislead (you can check them for yourself and come to your own conclusion) while others, such as quotes about student life at Harvard, were totally irrelevant (again, do check them for yourself).

In sum, Freedom from Religion would argue that America never was a Christian nation and that Christianity should have no special influence over America today.

In response to all this, I would say that: 1) I understand Hobby Lobby’s intent, seeing that American history is under such attack today and our founding is being mourned rather than celebrated. In that regard, I appreciate what they did. Our nation does have many biblical roots.

2) I totally agree with Hobby Lobby that, to the extent we choose to be a God-fearing nation and to the extent we choose to draw on the positive, Judeo-Christian principles that inspired our early thinkers, we will be blessed. I argued for that in Saving a Sick America.

3) That being said, I do understand how others would read the ad as advocating for a theocracy (which I wholeheartedly oppose) and as for claiming that only Christians should run for office (which is ridiculous).

That is unfortunate, and that’s why it’s important for us to make clear that we are not seeking to take over America and impose the Christian faith on the nation.

What we do believe is that God’s ways are always best, and that’s why we advocate for biblical principles and seek to live by them personally.

In the same way, others (such as atheists, agnostics, Hindus, Muslims, or secular activists) advocate for their own particular spiritual or secular worldviews and seek to live accordingly.

This is all part of the fabric of our nation.

In short, I do believe that the more truly Christian we are. the more blessed we will be as a nation. But we are not forcing this on anyone (God forbid), and we live by the rules of a Democratic Republic.

Since the Hobby Lobby ad will get a lot of negative attention, let’s be prepared to affirm what we do believe and deny what we don’t.


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To: Kevmo

Very cordial of you, also very insightful.


41 posted on 07/05/2021 8:47:37 AM PDT by Migraine (</)
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To: Kaslin

Your post and comment don’t align.
Hobby Lobby is doing a good thing by running this ad and then are attacked by anal sex practicers.

We all on FR would side with Hobby Lobby’s position hopefully .
But then in your post you say you don’t shop there because they make things in China.

Well none of us here are in favor of buying Chinese stuff.
But for now we have to.
And China does buy a lot of our stuff
But yes we need to make more products here in the US and buy less product from China.


42 posted on 07/05/2021 8:57:29 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: Migraine

Was Jesus cordial when He called false teachers of His day “vipers”, “unmarked tombs”, and “sons of Satan”?


43 posted on 07/05/2021 9:10:35 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Was there sumthi that Hobby Lobby posted on their ad that catholicism disagrees with?


44 posted on 07/05/2021 9:15:22 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not Hobby Lobby’s fault that much of their merchandise is not made in the USA. Certain product lines - especially in the “home décor” category - simply are no longer made in the USA.


45 posted on 07/05/2021 9:18:36 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Kaslin

The takeaway form the liberal reaction is, Only perverted liberals can speak their minds, not Christians.


46 posted on 07/05/2021 9:19:25 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: Sacajaweau
"Not made in USA?? Gee, is that different from any other retail store?"

Beat me to it. To cite one example, HL doesn't sell OTC drug products, but if you look at the labels on vitamins and other supplements you will see phrases like "distributed by" or "manufactured for" an American company, but the country where it was actually manufactured is usually not given, and you don't need to wonder why. Only a small number of these products are actually manufactured in the USA.
47 posted on 07/05/2021 9:27:45 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Wallace T.

I guess I’m an old fart, but I can remember when it was a big deal if someone who was NOT a PROTESTANT CHRISTIAN ran for any office. It was an absolute earthquake when Jack Kennedy won the Presidency. When was the first non-Christian elected to national office? Not so awfully long ago.


48 posted on 07/05/2021 9:34:08 AM PDT by Segovia
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To: Kaslin
The founder of Hobby Lobby graduated from the same High School I did, only a few years later, in flyover country Altus, Oklahoma.

That region of the country is the reddest of the red states and truly representative of the heartland values that make this country great, God, mom, apple pie and the American flag.

Shop where you choose, that choice is embedded in those values.

49 posted on 07/05/2021 9:44:31 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Kaslin
As usual Michael Brown tries to talk out of all of his orifices at once.

Be sure to employ sanitizer after reading.

50 posted on 07/05/2021 9:48:06 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: Fiji Hill

Nehemiah Scudder


51 posted on 07/05/2021 9:51:08 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken )
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Why is what the author writes here bad?

Because the author is a two faced hypocrite who tries to act like he is patting you on the back as he stabs you.

52 posted on 07/05/2021 9:51:13 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: Sacajaweau

In some Southern States, Car Dealers are closed on Sunday by Law.

If you are a Dealer Salesperson, you are forbidden to do any Vehicle Sales Transactions on Sunday.


53 posted on 07/05/2021 9:54:25 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Trump - Make America Great Again / Biden - Make American Grovel Again...)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Nonsense.

There is nothing he wrote we should be upset about.

As it is, I’ll be using Hobby Lobby. Over Michael’s. At least at HL I’m not likely to see rainbow streamers and products all over the place.


54 posted on 07/05/2021 10:32:26 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs. I )
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To: Kaslin; Liz; SunkenCiv; Red Badger

Bookmarked.

All good rebuttals of the “liberal” democrat-party’s-social-communist agenda. I do wish that Hobby Lobby would be more credible in attacking communism (being preo-American) if they had no “Made in China” merchandise.

/Home Depot-Walmart-Hobby Lobby-Target-Lowes-Ace Hardware-(ex)Sears-Pennys-Best Buy


55 posted on 07/05/2021 10:35:53 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: Kevmo

Jesus knew exactly who those guys were; and He knew their hearts, prior to applying invective to them. Hence He had rationale for what He said to them. Plus, He was, and is, God Almighty. Big difference.

You don’t know me (even though you might know everything else that can be known).

The Word says “walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called; with all lowliness and meekness and longsuffering; forbearing one another in love; endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.”

I will do my part.


56 posted on 07/05/2021 10:37:19 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: Wallace T.

Covenant theology and replacement theology are not the same.

Also, no founder of the United States was a dispensationalist, as dispensational theology did not exist until the 19th century.


57 posted on 07/05/2021 10:42:28 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: pfflier

“Shop where you choose”

Sure, but businesses need to also be aware that going nuts left or right is a turn off to the shoppers. I want products and not sermons. Not from the left or the right.


58 posted on 07/05/2021 10:45:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Kaslin

Gott mit uns


59 posted on 07/05/2021 10:47:31 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Why did Roshenko kill Ivanov? Ivanov denounced Roshenko then Solokov denounced Ivanov. )
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To: CodeToad

I say again, shop where you choose.


60 posted on 07/05/2021 10:49:38 AM PDT by pfflier
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