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The CDC stopped tracking most COVID-19 cases in vaccinated people. That makes it hard to know how dangerous Delta really is.
Business Insider ^ | July 3, 2021 | Aria Bendix

Posted on 07/03/2021 9:18:36 PM PDT by DoodleBob

...But before more data could be collected to answer these lingering questions, the CDC stopped tracking breakthrough infections that resulted in asymptomatic, mild, or moderate cases. Since May 1, the agency has only reported and investigated coronavirus infections among vaccinated people that resulted in hospitalization or death.

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That means it's difficult to tell exactly how much of a risk the Delta variant poses to vaccinated people. Researchers still don't know whether Delta makes breakthrough cases more common, or what the typical symptoms of a breakthrough infection caused by Delta look like. As a result, vaccinated people may have a hard time weighing the risks of returning to normal social activities or knowing what to expect should they develop a rare breakthrough case.

In a recent blog post for Harvard Health Publishing, Robert Shmerling, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School, called the CDC's decision not to track all breakthrough cases "surprising" and "disappointing."

"By tracking only cases requiring hospitalization or causing death, we may miss the chance to learn how people with 'milder' disease are affected by Delta or other variant infections, such as how long their symptoms last and how the infection may disrupt their lives," Shmerling told Insider.

He added that the US could also miss important information about which vaccines are most effective against Delta, how long vaccine protection against the variant lasts, and whether the timing of a second vaccine dose might determine one's likelihood of a breakthrough case.

The CDC told Insider that in a substantial proportion of reported breakthrough cases, data on symptoms is missing, "which is one reason why CDC is publicly reporting hospitalized and fatal cases."

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: b16172; breakthrough; cdc; covid19; delta
Gee, it's awfully convenient that this important data isn't being collected/published by the CDC anymore.
1 posted on 07/03/2021 9:18:36 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob
it's awfully convenient that this important data isn't being collected/published by the CDC anymore.

Australia and New Zealand and South America are all struggling with Delta. Perhaps it’s too important to track? Perhaps no one would get the “jabs” if they knew the truth?

I am no prophet, but I predict many more lockdowns in the fall/winter 2021/2022 in the USA…
2 posted on 07/03/2021 9:26:39 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: DoodleBob

Frightening


3 posted on 07/03/2021 9:26:45 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: All

CDC is still tracking hospitalized breakthrough cases & deaths, and are tracking “Delta” cases in general (vaccinated or not):

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html


4 posted on 07/03/2021 9:27:12 PM PDT by Drago
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To: DoodleBob

Not surprising. It’s been evident for quite some time that they define the goal, then gather or produce and publish the statistics needed to herd the sheeple in desired directions. In fact, it’s happening in every aspect of life it seems. Data mucking up the process? Dump it, cancel it or destroy it.

They got so much momentum in this tactic in the last few years it boggles the mind.


5 posted on 07/03/2021 9:39:30 PM PDT by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
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To: DoodleBob

They stopped collecting data on H1N1 when it became inconvenient on Bammy’s watch.


6 posted on 07/03/2021 9:48:39 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Drago
“CDC is still tracking hospitalized breakthrough cases & deaths, and are tracking “Delta” cases in general (vaccinated or not):”

Neither link says anything about tracking Delta “in general.”

It can't track what is not gathered.

7 posted on 07/03/2021 10:17:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

The “Delta Variant” is number “B.1.617.2”. Being tracked.

“The B.1.1.7 (Alpha), B.1.351 (Beta), B.1.617.2 (Delta), and P.1 (Gamma), variants circulating in the United States are classified as variants of concern.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/variant-info.html

https://cov-lineages.org/global_report_B.1.617.2.html

https://blog.cola.org/cdc-updates/sars-cov-2-variants-b.1.617-b.1.617.1-b.1.617.2-and-b.1.617.3-classified-as-variants-of-interest


8 posted on 07/03/2021 10:41:55 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

Thank you for offering links supporting Delta being tracked, but it still does not support it is covering Delta infections in vaccinated people who do not go to the hospital.

The main article is correct.


9 posted on 07/03/2021 10:45:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

If they don’t need to go to the hospital then “Delta” is about the same as “Alpha”. ;-)


10 posted on 07/03/2021 10:51:37 PM PDT by Drago
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To: DoodleBob; All

Not sure why the obsession with the stats. I get up, go to work... live a normal life without clinging to COVID stats. Silly me.. we’re all gonna die anyway before the end of the world due to global warming.


11 posted on 07/03/2021 11:17:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: DoodleBob
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12 posted on 07/04/2021 12:21:58 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: Cobra64

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


13 posted on 07/04/2021 3:36:33 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob

The stats have been crap from the start.

Because CoupFlu was NEVER about public health.


14 posted on 07/04/2021 3:46:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Cobra64

Stats matter for informed consent.

Which, since we’ve been lied to by so many about so much, is impossible for CoupFlu.


15 posted on 07/04/2021 3:48:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: DoodleBob

Same thing happened under Obama...they stopped counting swine flu cases. Imagine if Trump would have said to stop counting.

Yet, here we are again with a democrat led government and they just stop counting the facts? Or were they/are they faux after all?


16 posted on 07/04/2021 4:04:45 AM PDT by EBH (Republics are only meant for a good and moral people. 1776-2021 May God Save Us.)
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To: DoodleBob

Its only important to them if their are deaths invovled


17 posted on 07/04/2021 4:11:17 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: mewzilla; Grampa Dave
I would agree that this was never about health. Grampa Dave had several excellent comments pointing out that truth.

I disagree that the stats have been crap from the start. Certainly they suffer from inconsistency - China's numbers are pure fiction, the definition of a "case" has varied over time as has a fatality. But there have been enhancements and improvements whereby meaning HAS been obtainable.

This is a fairly contagious - about 10% of the nation got it - but not too lethal - 98.2% survival rate - virus. The virus was unusual....it could kill you several ways and had long-term impacts on survivors...why, it's almost as if it was made to be like that. It was extremely lethal for the elderly (one in five people over 85 who had it died with COVID19 on their death certificate). Certainly it caused (was used to cause...?) more mayhem than the stats would indicate were necessary, and the way the governors colossally screwed it up on the elderly is worthy of criminal indictments. Finally, thanks to Rand Paul, Fauci et al helped fund this biohazard.

I find the data, warts and all, to be PROOF of the tragedy that was the pandemic. The CDC's continued fudging of the numbers (which smart people can overcome) tells me they realized that the data they published to scare us is also being used to reveal the farcical dimensions of this saga. It's like numeric judo.

One final point, which I don't think the CDC et al considered. A classical education was intended to make the student able to better understand the world, even if the student has a specialty. Since 1918 there have been tens of millions of Americans who've received advanced degrees that helped nurture (in many instances) the innate curiosity in mankind. Even the undegreed people have, over the past 30 years in particular, become more interested and aware of the world beyond their front yard. God's gift of free will, topping off those degrees and curiosity - and, in America, mixed with self-determination, individualism, and love for one's family - resulted in millions of rabid classical liberal Americans who weaponized these skills and gifts to push back hard against the statists. I truly believe they did NOT expect millions of Americans to download data from GitHub, read articles in the Lancet, NEJM, Science, and explain to others that the narrative was fake and just WTF was happening. The hate that dripped from the mouths of governors, CNN etc, and Mask and Shutdown Nancys (and now the bullying of the unvaccinated) was them blinking...when your opponent loses it, you're over target.

True, Trump isn't President, 600k+ Americans are dead and thousands of parents and grandparents died alone thanks to government rules. And now the Delta Variant is the latest boogie man. Satan never sleeps... but neither does God. Anyone can land a sucker punch, but it ain't over till it's over.

18 posted on 07/04/2021 4:49:14 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I am no prophet, but I predict many more lockdowns in the fall/winter 2021/2022 in the USA…

…unless a crapton of people die, i mean REALLY die, the only lockdowns will prevent travel, .but the genie is out of the bottle. Masked sheeple may persist but even the Karens i know are not going to stay home.
There is not enough wine for their whine.


19 posted on 07/04/2021 4:53:10 AM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis deplorable. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE)
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To: DoodleBob
The powers that be don't give a damn about you and I. All they care about is power. None of the numbers they've been bandying about for more than a year now have been anything but pure, unadulterated propaganda designed to create fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

I'm not surprised at the massive numbers of Americans that have just blindly followed along with all this as if the feral government were speaking the gospel, but I am disappointed.

At this point, I don't see how anyone can take any of this seriously.

20 posted on 07/04/2021 9:54:22 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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