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Blackouts Loom In California As Electricity Prices Are “Absolutely Exploding”
Nation & State ^ | 6-26-2021 | Robert Bryce via RealClearEnergy.com

Posted on 06/26/2021 8:50:18 PM PDT by blam

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To: Revel
Back in 1952 when Massachusetts was still sane, they built a hydroelectric facility at Northfield Mountain in Northfield, MA. (I am told the 10th Mountain Division used to train there)

From Wikipedia:
The plant was built entirely underground, and located about 5.5 miles (8.9 km) up the Connecticut River from Turners Falls Dam. A stretch of the Connecticut River, extending some 20 miles (32 km) north from this dam to the Vernon Dam, Vermont, serves as the station's lower reservoir. During periods of lower electrical power demand, the plant pumps water from this lower reservoir through the Northfield Mountain Tailrace Tunnel to a man-made upper reservoir. At times of high demand, water is released to flow downhill from this upper reservoir through a turbine generator, where it then collects in the lower reservoir to be stored until again pumped to the upper reservoir.

Northfield Mountain's upper reservoir covers 300 acres (120 ha) at 800 feet (240 m) above the river, with total storage of 5.6 billion US gallons (21 Gl) of water. Its underground powerhouse lies at 700 feet (210 m) below the surface and is accessible through a 2,500-foot (760 m)-long tunnel; it includes four large reversible turbines, each of which can pump 15,200 cubic feet (430 m3) of water per second and release 20,000 cubic feet (570 m3) of water per second to generate 1,143 megawatts (1,533,000 hp) of electricity. The turbines can ramp up in 10 minutes, and deliver full power for 8 hours

So basically, they use cheaper and more available energy at night to fill the reservoir, then during the day, when energy is more expensive and scarcer, they empty the reservoir through hydroelectric generators.

Back when Massachusetts was sane.

121 posted on 07/12/2021 5:16:11 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: blam

The villages outside of the cities in a lot of countries, have no electricity. That’s what the elite want for the whole world.


122 posted on 07/13/2021 3:43:09 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: TexasGator
"“And, it can never melt down,”

Where did you see that?"

There was a one hour special on Netflix about this whole nuclear effort by Gates. I thought it was pretty good. He spent something like $250 million on this effort.

123 posted on 07/13/2021 3:57:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: deek69
If this were true wouldn’t only conservatives be left in California.

No, the majority of us left before 2008. Those who were left stayed because they had either purchased really nice property during the downturn in the 90s, inherited it, or otherwise already paid it off and kept thinking maybe they could turn the state around with a RINO legislature. Then the property taxes increased to the point it was no longer worth owning the property mortgage-free. Now, it's becoming evident that's not going to turn around and they can cash out by selling their inherited 2 bedroom 1940s cottage to Blackrock for $2.5 million.

I left in 2004 because my neighborhood was getting more and more dangerous. My car got broken into in a locked garage, my next door neighbor had a junkie climb up the outside wall to look in the windows off her balcony, and I was starting to feel threatened just walking down to the coffee shop or the gym (IMO, one of the best features of my place was being able to walk everywhere). Someone made me an offer over the phone for my condo and I took it and fled. Besides, my family had already moved out, so I just followed them.

124 posted on 07/13/2021 8:47:04 PM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven )
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To: blam

Good!


125 posted on 07/13/2021 8:50:14 PM PDT by sport
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To: TexasGator
"Where did you see that?"

Here:

A Netflix Documentary on Bill Gates: Inside Bill's Brain

"The third segment discusses another incredible breakthrough that the Gates Foundation's money has made: the development of a radical new design for nuclear power reactors that dramatically eliminates the threat of a radioactive disaster. It also uses spent fuel that is piling up around America to generate electrical power."

126 posted on 07/14/2021 5:40:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
So then it makes eminent sense for CA to mandate that all new passenger car and truck sales in the state be all-electric by 2035. < /s >

You'll have an electric car and nowhere to plug it in to charge at $50 for 200 miles.

127 posted on 07/16/2021 9:16:47 AM PDT by I want the USA back (To find out who really rules you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize. Voltaire. )
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To: HKMk23

Yikes, I pay 7 cents.


128 posted on 07/18/2021 6:56:42 AM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: Freee-dame

Your $1K a month UBI will take care of it...


129 posted on 07/18/2021 6:57:44 AM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: blam

Now if we could only elect a communist dimocrat to governor, this would all be fixed. Maybe we should elect the current mayor of San Franhomofrisco. He/she/it/whatever it calls itself could fix all of it. Look what a wonderful job he/she/it has done in turning San Franhomofrisco into a third world nation.


130 posted on 07/18/2021 7:00:07 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: blam

The solution to that is use some of Biden’s “renewal” electricity. That will solve their problem. They just keep “renewing” it to the get the electricity they want.


131 posted on 07/18/2021 7:10:43 AM PDT by sport
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To: Revel

About 60% efficient IIRC. Thermodynamics not your strong suit?

Don’t feel bad, it isn’t for most opining on this stuff, especially those on the Left.


132 posted on 07/19/2021 5:35:51 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

That was compared to batteries. What does it cost to make batteries? The entire process including mining. How long do they last? Don’t forget that we are talking about an acre of batteries.


133 posted on 07/19/2021 6:57:10 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Revel

Hydro pumped storage is better than batteries, no doubt. It has been around a long time. But it’s a very, very low bar.

It won’t make solar and wind viable replacements for carbon fueled power plants.


134 posted on 07/19/2021 7:07:19 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: roadcat

Bingo! Easterners!


135 posted on 07/21/2021 4:13:35 PM PDT by acapesket (all happy now?)
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To: blam
I was there. My only child (Dr blam) was conceived in Golden Gate park at a free Grateful Dead concert in 1967.

Small world, I was there also! As I recall, the Grateful Dead were at the eastern side of the music concourse in GG Park. I was within 20 feet of them. I brought their LP album and had all the band members sign the cover. I was very upset when I found out my sister gave the album away to a friend. It would be worth thousands today.

You're right, about how many young people came after that song. Haight Street and the park panhandle were easy going with free band concerts (Jefferson Airship etc.), and all that changed to crowded conditions in 1968 (and the bands doing paid concerts). So many people came to SF that were from outside California.

136 posted on 07/21/2021 5:52:35 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: blam

Vicious, lecturing morons living in moronic conditions of their making.

Oh well.


137 posted on 07/21/2021 5:54:47 PM PDT by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
He laughed when I bought a ton of their dirt cheap stock a year ago on the bet that it’ll double maybe in 5 years.

One can hope. You're in better shape than my wife. She has had PG&E stock for years; at one time it was $72 a share. After their problems, it dropped to $6 a share, and has slowly climbed to $9 a share. It will never climb back to the old high values.

138 posted on 07/21/2021 5:59:37 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

I’ll keep hope alive 👍
I don’t think it’ll ever seen anything north of $20 again either.


139 posted on 07/21/2021 6:53:34 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: roadcat
"Small world, I was there also!"

Those were the days. Young and reckless as hell.

140 posted on 07/21/2021 7:37:23 PM PDT by blam
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