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It's interesting that GM started building Electric Locomotives nearly a century ago, though they were powered by diesel-electric generators (at Electromotive Division of GM) as did Westinghouse from which WABTec (Westinghouse Air Brake Technology) was spun off. I remember asking a railroad engineer in the '70s: "How can you tell the difference between a Westinghouse and a GM locomotive?" His reply was: "The GM locomotive is the one that's moving". I wonder what will be said about that of their new venture together?
1 posted on 06/23/2021 5:46:30 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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More solar panels! STAT! New rail cars and engines will have plenty of surface areas on the top to mount solar panels. What could possibly go wrong? :-}


2 posted on 06/23/2021 5:54:11 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0


3 posted on 06/23/2021 5:54:39 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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I see a lot of parked trains waiting for a diesel generator recharge truck to come save them. So they burn the diesel in the trucks, or burn the diesel in the trains. The trains are more efficient as they are.


4 posted on 06/23/2021 5:55:59 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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The companies signed a nonbinding memorandum of understanding to advance a zero-emissions future in transportation. Wabtec will apply its expertise in energy management and systems optimization to develop a solution for heavy haul locomotives that takes full advantage of GM’s platform.

This has never been done before.

Penn. GG1
built 1934 thru 1943
Horsepower: 4,600 HP (8,500 peak H.P.)

5 posted on 06/23/2021 5:58:16 AM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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“though they were powered by diesel-electric generators”

They still are, correct? I remember reading how the diesel electric locomotives were a huge improvement over the steam locomotives.

The article mentions batteries and fuel cells. Those are two entirely different sources of electric power.

Maybe the “tender” concept needs to return. Remember the tender was hauled behind the steam locomotive and contained the coal supply. Now we can have an electric locomotive with various tenders: batteries, diesel powered generators, fuel cells.


6 posted on 06/23/2021 6:23:32 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Railroads need traction, which in turn necessitates excessive weight on the power end. I have often wondered if both rail and wheels could be formed in a manner that allows interlocking on a micro level, thus lessening the need for weight on the power end. This would hopefully result in greater efficiency with less wear and tear on infrastructure. But I digress.


7 posted on 06/23/2021 6:33:27 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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I just picture a car or two in front of the locomotive engine that houses the battery packs. Train runs “X” far and there will be a switching station where they can decouple the drained cars, back up, re-couple new cars that were recharged, and off they go again. That way if all else fails they can have a car loaded with fuel and another with a diesel engine so no matter what, the train can keep moving whether the greenies like it or not.

Someone needs to ping Willie Green to get his opinion on his favorite topic here as well.


12 posted on 06/23/2021 6:58:59 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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Why not a wind-up one


13 posted on 06/23/2021 7:04:04 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Todays trains are Hybrid. Electric motor driven, diesel generators creating the ‘juice’.
Hard to imagime a battery pack able to replace the genset.
Overhead wires?


14 posted on 06/23/2021 7:35:02 AM PDT by Vinnie ( )
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Battery powered freight trains crossing the Rockies pulling 200 fully laden cars or more will require a lot of additional battery cars


15 posted on 06/23/2021 7:37:06 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I recommend we go back to steam engines just to piss democrats off. Another bonus would be that thousands of them would die from fright!😎


18 posted on 06/23/2021 8:04:51 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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What we need is more ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVES. Whatever you thought of the New Haven, they had electric all over their territory. The Virginian was another mostly electric railroad.


19 posted on 06/23/2021 9:58:45 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (I'm the one trying to save American Democracy...Donald Trump 6/5/21 at the NCGOP convention)
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An excellent electric loco already exists, it’s called the GG1. GE and Pennsy built 139 of them. Batteries make absolutely no sense on a closed route exclusive system such as a railroad. Vectored power delivery by Tesla generators would be ideal. Tesla was correct in that you do no need massive infrastructure for delivery.
The GG1s gave yeoman service for decades before the were retired.


20 posted on 06/23/2021 3:07:15 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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An excellent electric loco already exists, it’s called the GG1. GE and Pennsy built 139 of them. Batteries make absolutely no sense on a closed route exclusive system such as a railroad. Vectored power delivery by Tesla generators would be ideal. Tesla was correct in that you do no need massive infrastructure for delivery.
The GG1s gave yeoman service for decades before the were retired.


21 posted on 06/23/2021 3:08:06 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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