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Romney calls for national wildfire commission, can't 'guarantee' it will work
kutv ^ | 06/19/2021 | Brian Mullahy

Posted on 06/22/2021 8:45:35 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

DRAPER, Utah (KUTV) — Utah Sen. Mitt Romney announced he and Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Arizona, are proposing legislation to establish a national wildfire commission, but in response to a question from 2News, acknowledged he can “never guarantee that a government commission will work.”

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KEYWORDS: commission; mittensonfire; national; romney; wildfire
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We already have a Department of the Interior.


21 posted on 06/22/2021 9:31:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I thought she died one winter
When there came a killing frost


22 posted on 06/22/2021 9:32:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Seruzawa
There is no reason to mess with States that ARE handling their fire problems just because Kalifornia is run by idiots.

California may get the headlines because so many wild fires there are caused by their own public utility companies, but the fact remains there is a lot of Federal forest land located in western states.

I wouldn't dismiss such a commission out of hand.

23 posted on 06/22/2021 9:33:17 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“We’re from the government, and we want to help screw you, Mr & Mrs Taxpayer.”


24 posted on 06/22/2021 9:34:25 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit..)
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To: QBFimi
When shown what property in their area looked like 150 years ago.

That is not completely accurate where we live. We live in an area that was clear cut in the 1930s. Even then they used to plant several fast growing fir trees for every tree that they cut down. At this point the trees are hardly “toothpick” trees, they are 125 feet tall with 3 foot thick trunks. Every time we get a good wind storm trees in the area fall over and wreck houses and kill people. Two of ours have fallen on one of the neighbor's houses. Last year I cut down 14 of them. I wish that I had them to sell now.

A guy with a portable saw mill cut a bunch of them into lumber. He was suppose to give a bunch of the wood to me, but he got tired a third of the way through the pile and sold the rest to someone else without sharing any of the money with me... and I did most of the falling and dragging them up the hill for him. It is still a very sore spot with both of my wife and I.

The problem is that most mills are no longer set up to cut such large logs. The guy with the portable saw mill had a hard time handling them. The lumber that the guy did cut was spectacular mostly clear fir with beautiful tight grain like you cannot find any more. They were so big that it took two logging truck loads to haul off the ones that did not get cut into lumber.

25 posted on 06/22/2021 9:35:54 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I can only think of one fedgov commission that I’d call a complete success and that was the Truman Committee that investigate war profiteering during WW2. It save many billions of dollars when the country needed it. And it made Truman a household name. The two factors (that Truman was a pain in the read to big business AND he was a national figure because of it) got him kicked into a useless job where he could do no further harm to the donors: Vice President. The rest is history.


26 posted on 06/22/2021 9:37:53 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: LIConFem
The third senator from Massachusetts is just trying to remain relevant in Utah.

What a putzhead!

27 posted on 06/22/2021 9:39:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Drop Romney from a helicopter into the middle of the next wildfire so he can do some “fact finding”.


28 posted on 06/22/2021 9:40:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: a fool in paradise

Fires will start. The majority are accidental, but there are certainly some firebugs out there.

The real issue is mitigating the fire damage and keeping it manageable. In severe wind conditions when it is dry there is not a whole lot we can do to stop them. However, we can lessen the damage by proper land management and practices.

The environmental movement has been an unmitigated disaster when it comes to wildfire. For decades our courts have allowed them to tie up good management practices and controlled burns. State agencies are part of the problem also as they refuse to allow controlled burns in many places because of “air quality”. The beetle kill pine forests in the western US are another problem that requires logging and removal of fuels and they prevent that as well.

It is a multi-faceted problem. Like everyone here, I detest Romney, but any efforts to shine a light on the problems with wildland fire is fine by me.

Most of you would be shocked and surprised to hear from the USFS and BLM employees that have to deal with this stuff. They want good management practices and controlled burns. They are trying to do this, but the Sierra Club and others tie them up in court constantly. The latte liberal class in DC and in the big blue cities do not understand wildland fire and the root cause - too much fuel and unhealthy forests.

For those interested here is a good Ted Talk where a USFS researcher demonstrates that we have TOO MANY trees just as they have too much fuel in California. The sagebrush on the plains of the West is supposed to burn and it will. We need to control the burns whenever possible and do it on a schedule to prevent the catastrophic uncontrolled burns. We also need to practice proactive burns to lower fuel loads along roads and other accessible areas so that it is easier to stop fire progress for suppression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edDZNkm8Mas

In Western Canada they pretty much let the fires burn and guide them around people/structures as it is difficult (and dangerous) to stop them when you have no good road access.

It will burn. Guaranteed. We can burn it when conditions are right or nature/accidents/arson will kick it off. It is how it burns that is the major problem. Slow moving non-violent controlled burns or very violent firestorms. We can choose one or the other.


29 posted on 06/22/2021 9:43:42 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: Newtoidaho

100% correct.
John Muir ran a saw mill in Yosemite!


30 posted on 06/22/2021 9:50:28 AM PDT by sasquatch
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No, it won’t work. Talk, talk, talk. Blah, blah, blah.

Maybe if CA would clean out the deadwood and debris, they’d have less wildfires.


31 posted on 06/22/2021 10:14:55 AM PDT by bgill
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Pretending again, what a jerk.


32 posted on 06/22/2021 10:17:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

An extreme conservative, as he called himself, doesn’t call for a “Federal” anything.


33 posted on 06/22/2021 10:55:22 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: ChicagoConservative27

meaningless legislation is all he has. Typical useless RINO bureaucrat. Nauseating human being too.


34 posted on 06/22/2021 12:31:20 PM PDT by vespa300
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